The Sandy Hook Massacre: Unanswered Questions and Missing Information 1,039

Often quoted yet seldom read, this article was written ten days after the December 14 Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre.-JT, 4-12-13.

“[My staff] and I hope the people of Newtown don’t have it crash on their head later.” –Connecticut Medical Examiner D. Wayne Carver II, MD, December 15, 2012

Inconsistencies and anomalies abound when one turns an analytical eye to news of the Newtown school massacre. The public’s general acceptance of the event’s validity and faith in its resolution suggest a deepened credulousness borne from a world where almost all news and information is electronically mediated and controlled. The condition is reinforced through the corporate media’s unwillingness to push hard questions vis-à-vis Connecticut and federal authorities who together bottlenecked information while invoking prior restraint through threats of prosecutorial action against journalists and the broader citizenry seeking to interpret the event on social media.

Along these lines on December 19 the Connecticut State Police assigned individual personnel to each of the 26 families who lost a loved one at Sandy Hook Elementary. “The families have requested no press interviews,” State Police assert on their behalf, “and we are asking that this request be honored.[1] The de facto gag order will be in effect until the investigation concludes—now forecast to be “several months away” even though lone gunman Adam Lanza has been confirmed as the sole culprit.[2]

With the exception of an unusual and apparently contrived appearance by Emilie Parker’s alleged father, victims’ family members have been almost wholly absent from public scrutiny.[3] What can be gleaned from this and similar coverage raises many more questions and glaring inconsistencies than answers. While it sounds like an outrageous claim, one is left to inquire whether the Sandy Hook shooting ever took place—at least in the way law enforcement authorities and the nation’s news media have described.

The Accidental Medical Examiner

An especially important yet greatly underreported feature of the Sandy Hook affair is the wholly bizarre performance of Connecticut’s top medical examiner H. Wayne Carver II at a December 15 press conference. Carver’s unusual remarks and behavior warrant close consideration because in light of his professional notoriety they appear remarkably amateurish and out of character.

H. Wayne Carver II has an extremely self-assured, almost swaggering presence in Connecticut state administration. In early 2012 Carver threatened to vacate his position because of state budget cuts and streamlining measures that threatened his professional autonomy over the projects and personnel he oversaw.

Along these lines the pathologist has gone to excessive lengths to demonstrate his findings and expert opinion in court proceedings. For example, in a famous criminal case Carver “put a euthanized pig through a wood chipper so jurors could match striations on the bone fragments with the few ounces of evidence that prosecutors said were on the remains of the victim.”[4] One would therefore expect Carver to be in his element while identifying and verifying the exact ways in which Sandy Hook’s children and teachers met their violent demise.

Yet the H. Wayne Carver who showed up to the December 15 press conference is an almost entirely different man, appearing apprehensive and uncertain, as if he is at a significant remove from the postmortem operation he had overseen. The multiple gaffes, discrepancies, and hedges in response to reporters’ astute questions suggest that he is either under coercion or an imposter. While the latter sounds untenable it would go a long way in explaining his sub-pedestrian grasp of medical procedures and terminology.

With this in mind extended excerpts from this exchange are worthy of recounting here in print.  Carver is accompanied by Connecticut State Police Lieutenant H. Paul Vance and additional Connecticut State Police personnel. The reporters are off-screen and thus unidentified so I have assigned them simple numerical identification based on what can be discerned of their voices.

Reporter #1: So the rifle was the primary weapon?

H. Wayne Carver: Yes.

Reporter #1: [Inaudible]

Carver: Uh (pause). Question was what caliber were these bullets. And I know—I probably know more about firearms than most pathologists but if I say it in court they yell at me and don’t make me answer [sic]—so [nervous laughter]. I’ll let the police do that for you.

Reporter #2: Doctor can you tell us about the nature of the wounds. Were they at very close range? Were the children shot at from across the room?

Carver: Uhm, I only did seven of the autopsies. The victims I had ranged from three to eleven wounds apiece and I only saw two of them with close range shooting. Uh, but that’s, uh y’know, a sample. Uh, I really don’t have detailed information on the rest of the injuries.

[Given that Carver is Connecticut’s top coroner and in charge of the entire postmortem this is a startling admission.-JT]

Reporter #3: But you said that the long rifle was used?

Carver: Yes.

Reporter #3: But the long rifle was discovered in the car.

State Police Lieutenant Vance: That’s not correct, sir.

Unidentified reporter #4: How many bullets or bullet fragments did you find in the autopsy. Can you tell us that?

Carver: Oh. I’m lucky I can tell you how many I found. I don’t know. There were lots of them, OK? This type of weapon is not, uh … the bullets are designed in such a fashion that the energy—this is very clinical. I shouldn’t be saying this. But the energy is deposited in the tissue so the bullet stays in [the tissue].

[In fact, the Bushmaster .223 Connecticut police finally claimed was used in the shooting is designed for long range field use and utilizes high velocity bullets averaging 3,000 feet-per-second, the energy of which even at considerable distance would penetrate several bodies before finally coming to rest in tissue.]

Reporter #5: How close were the injuries?

Carver: Uh, all the ones (pause). I believe say, yes [sic].

Reporter #6: In what shape were the bodies when the families were brought to check [inaudible].

Carver: Uh, we did not bring the bodies and the families into contact. We took pictures of them, uhm, of their facial features. We have, uh, uh—it’s easier on the families when you do that. Un, there is, uh, a time and place for the up close and personal in the grieving process, but to accomplish this we thought it would be best to do it this way and, uh, you can sort of, uh … You can control a situation depending on the photographer, and I have very good photographers. Uh, but uh—

Reporter #7: Do you know the difference of the time of death between the mother in the house and the bodies recovered [in the school].

Carver: Uh, no, I don’t. Sorry [shakes head excitedly] I don’t! [embarrassed laugh]

Reporter #8: Did the gunman kill himself with the rifle?

Carver: No. I—I don’t know yet. I’ll-I’ll examine him tomorrow morning. But, but I don’t think so.

[Why has Carver left arguably the most important specimen for last? And why doesn't he think Lanza didn't commit suicide with the rifle?]

Reporter #9: In terms of the children, were they all found in one classroom or—

Carver: Uhm … [inaudible] [Turns to Lieutenant Vance] Paul and company will deal with that.

Reporter #9: What?

Carver: Paul and company will deal with that. Lieutenant Vance is going to handle that one.

Reporter #10: Was there any evidence of a struggle? Any bruises?

Carver: No.

Reporter #11: The nature of the shooting; is there any sense that there was a lot of care taken with precision [inaudible] or randomly?

Carver: [Exhales while glancing upward, as if frustrated] Both. It’s a very difficult question to answer … You’d think after thousands of people I’ve seen shot but I … It’s … If I attempted to answer it in court there’d be an objection and then they’d win—[nervous laughter].

[Who would win? Why does an expert whose routine job as a public employee is to provide impartial medical opinion concerned with winning and losing in court? Further, Carver is not in court but rather at a press conference.]

Reporter #12: Doctor, can you discuss the fatal injuries to the adults?

Carver: Ah, they were similar to those of the children.

Reporter #13: Doctor, the children you had autopsied, where in the bodies were they hit?

Carver: Uhm [pause]. All over. All over.

Reporter #14: Were [the students] sitting at their desks or were they running away when this happened?

Carver: I’ll let the guys who—the scene guys talk—address that issue. I, uh, obviously I was at the scene. Obviously I’m very experienced in that. But there are people who are, uh, the number one professionals in that. I’ll let them—let that [voice trails off].

Reporter [#15]: How many boys and how many girls [were killed]?

Carver: [Slowly shaking his head] I don’t know.

More Unanswered Questions and Inconsistencies

In addition to Carver’s remarks several additional chronological and evidentiary contradictions in the official version of the Sandy Hook shooting are cause for serious consideration and leave doubt in terms of how the event transpired vis-à-vis the way authorities and major media outlets have presented it. It is now well known that early on journalists reported that Adam Lanza’s brother Ryan Lanza was reported to be the gunman, and that pistols were used in the shooting rather than a rifle. Yet these are merely the tip of the iceberg.

  • When Did the Gunman Arrive?

After Adam Lanza fatally shot and killed his mother at his residence, he drove himself to the elementary school campus, arriving one half hour after classes had commenced. Dressed in black, Lanza proceeds completely unnoticed through an oddly vacant parking lot with a military style rifle and shoots his way through double glass doors and a brand new yet apparently poorly engineered security system.

Further, initial press accounts suggest how no school personnel or students heard gunshots and no 911 calls are made until after Lanza begins firing inside the facility. “It was a lovely day,” Sandy Hook fourth grade teacher Theodore Varga said. And then, suddenly and unfathomably, gunshots rang out. “I can’t even remember how many,” Varga said.[5]

The recollection contrasts sharply with an updated version of Lanza’s arrival where at 9:30AM  he

walked up to the front entrance and fired at least a half dozen rounds into the glass doors. The thunderous sound of Lanza blowing an opening big enough to walk through the locked school door caused Principal Dawn Hochsprung and school psychologist Mary Scherlach to bolt from a nearby meeting room to investigate. He shot and killed them both as they ran toward him.

Breaching the school’s security system in such a way would have likely triggered some automatic alert of school personnel. Further, why would the school’s administrators run toward an armed man who has just noisily blasted his way into the building?

Two other staff members attending the meeting with Hochsprung and Scherlach sustained injuries “in the hail of bullets” but returned to the aforementioned meeting room and managed a call to 911.[6] This contrasted with earlier reports where the first 911 call claimed students “were trapped in a classroom with the adult shooter who had two guns.”[7] Recordings of the first police dispatch following the 911 call at 9:35:50 indicate that someone “thinks there’s someone shooting in the building.”[8] There is a clear distinction between potentially hearing shots somewhere in the building and being almost mortally caught in a “hail of bullets.”

  • How did the gunman fire so many shots in such little time?

According to Dr. Carver and State Police, Lanza shot each victim between 3 and 11 times during a 5 to 7 minute span. If one is to average this out to 7 bullets per individual—excluding misses—Lanza shot 182 times, or once every two seconds. Yet according to the official story Lanza was the sole assassin and armed with only one weapon. Thus if misses and changing the gun’s 30-shot magazine at least 6 times are added to the equation Lanza must have been averaging about one shot per second—extremely skilled use of a single firearm for a young man with absolutely no military training and who was on the verge of being institutionalized.  Still, an accurate rendering of the event is even more difficult to arrive at because the chief medical examiner admittedly has no idea exactly how the children were shot or whether a struggle ensued.

  • Where is the Photo and Video Evidence?

Photographic and video evidence is at once profuse yet lacking in terms of its capacity to demonstrate that a mass shooting took place on the scale described by authorities. For example, in an era of ubiquitous video surveillance of public buildings especially no visual evidence of Lanza’s violent entry has emerged. And while studio snapshots of the Sandy Hook victims abound there is little if any eyewitness testimony of anyone who’s observed the corpses except for Carver and his staff, and they appear almost as confused about the conditions of the deceased as any layperson watching televised coverage of the event. Nor are there any routine eyewitness, photo or video evidence of the  crime scene’s aftermath—broken glass, blasted security locks and doors, bullet casings and holes, bloodied walls and floors—all of which are common in such investigations and reportage.

  • Why Were Medical Personnel Turned Away From the Crime Scene?

Oddly enough medical personnel are forced to set up their operation not at the school where the dead and injured lay, but rather at the fire station several hundred feet away. This flies in the face of standard medical operating procedure where personnel are situated as close to the scene as possible. There is no doubt that the school had ample room to accommodate such personnel. Yet medical responders who rushed to Sandy Hook Elementary upon receiving word of the tragedy were denied entry to the school and forced to set up primary and secondary triages off school grounds and wait for the injured to be brought to them.

Shortly after the shooting “as other ambulances from neighboring communities rolled up, sirens blaring, the first responders slowly realized that their training would be tragically underutilized on this horrible day. ‘You may not be able to save everybody, but you damn well try,’” 44 year old emergency medical technician James Wolff told NBC News. “’And when (we) didn’t have the opportunity to put our skills into action, it’s difficult.’”[9]

In light of this, who were the qualified medical practitioners that pronounced the 20 children and 7 adults dead? Who decided that none could be revived? Carver and his staff are apparently the only medical personnel to have attended to the victims—yet this was in the postmortem conducted several hours later. Such slipshod handling of the crime scene leaves the State of Connecticut open to a potential array of hefty civil claims by families of the slain.

  • Did a mass evacuation of the school take place?

Sandy Hook Elementary is attended by 600 students. Yet there is no photographic or video evidence of an evacuation on this scale. Instead, limited video and photographic imagery suggest that a limited evacuation of perhaps at most several dozen students occurred.

A highly circulated photo depicts students walking in a single file formation with their hands on each others’ shoulders and eyes shut. Yet this was the image of a drill that took place prior to the event itself.[10. See Correction] Most other photos are portraits of individual children. Despite aerial video footage of the event documenting law enforcement scouring the scene and apprehending one or more suspects in the wooded area nearby the school,[11] there is no such evidence that a mass exodus of children from the school transpired once law enforcement pronounced Sandy Hook secure. Nor are there videos or photos of several hundred students and their parents at the oft-referenced fire station nearby where students were routed for parent pick up.

Sound Bite Prism and the Will to Believe

Outside of a handful of citizen journalists and alternative media commentators Sandy Hook’s dramatically shifting factual and circumstantial terrain has escaped serious critique because it is presented through major media’s carefully constructed prism of select sound bites alongside a widespread and longstanding cultural impulse to accept the pronouncements of experts, be they bemused physicians, high ranking law enforcement officers, or political leaders demonstrating emotionally-grounded concern.

Political scientist W. Lance Bennett calls this the news media’s “authority-disorder bias.” “Whether the world is returned to a safe, normal place,” Bennett writes, “or whether the very idea of a normal world is called into question, the news is preoccupied with order, along with related questions of whether authorities are capable of establishing or restoring it.”[12]

Despite Carver’s bizarre performance and law enforcement authorities’ inability to settle on and relay simple facts, media management’s impulse to assure audiences and readerships of the Newtown community’s inevitable adjustment to its trauma and loss with the aid of the government’s protective oversight—however incompetent that may be—far surpasses a willingness to undermine this now almost universal news media narrative with messy questions and suggestions of intrigue. This well-worn script is one the public has been conditioned to accept. If few people relied on such media to develop their world view this would hardly be a concern. Yet this is regrettably not the case.

The Sandy Hook tragedy was on a far larger scale than the past year’s numerous slaughters, including the Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting and the Batman theater shooting in Colorado. It also included glaringly illogical exercises and pronouncements by authorities alongside remarkably unusual evidentiary fissures indistinguishable by an American political imagination cultivated to believe that the corporate, government and military’s sophisticated system of organized crime is largely confined to Hollywood-style storylines while really existing malfeasance and crises are without exception returned to normalcy.

If recent history is a prelude the likelihood of citizens collectively assessing and questioning Sandy Hook is limited even given the event’s overtly superficial trappings.  While the incident is ostensibly being handled by Connecticut law enforcement, early reports indicate how federal authorities were on the scene as the 911 call was received. Regardless of where one stands on the Second Amendment and gun control, it is not unreasonable to suggest the Obama administration’s complicity or direct oversight of an incident that has in very short order sparked a national debate on the very topic—and not coincidentally remains a key piece of Obama’s political platform.

The move to railroad this program through with the aid of major media and an irrefutable barrage of children’s portraits, “heartfelt” platitudes and ostensible tears neutralizes a quest for genuine evidence, reasoned observation and in the case of Newtown honest and responsible law enforcement. Moreover, to suggest that Obama is not capable of deploying such techniques to achieve political ends is to similarly place ones faith in image and interpretation above substance and established fact, the exact inclination that in sum has brought America to such an impasse.

Notes


[1] State of Connecticut Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection, ”State Police Investigate Newtown School Shooting” [Press Release] December 15, 2012.

[2] State of Connecticut Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection, “Update: Newtown School Shooting” [Press Release], December 19, 2012.

[3] CNN, “Family of 6 Year Old Victim,” December 14, 2012, “Sandy Hook School Shooting Hoax Fraud,” Youtube, December 17, 2012.

[4] Hartford Courant, “Finally ‘Enough’ For Chief Medical Examiner” [Editorial], January 30, 2012.

[5] John Christofferson and Jocelyn Noveck, “Sandy Hook School Shooting: Adam Lanza Kills 26 and Himself at Connecticut School,” Huffington Post, December 15, 2012.

[6] Edmund H. Mahoney, Dave Altmari, and Jon Lender, “Sandy Hook Shooter’s Pause May Have Aided Escape,” Hartford Courant, December 23, 2012.

[8] RadioMan911TV, “Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting Newtown Police / Fire and CT State Police,” Youtube, December 14, 2012. At several points in this recording audio is scrambled, particularly following apprehension of a second shooting suspect outside the school, suggesting a purposeful attempt to withhold vital information.

[9] Miranda Leitsinger, “You Feel Helpless: First Responders Rushed to School After Shooting, Only to Wait,” US News on NBC, December 20.

[10] http://thenetng.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Sandy-Hook-Elementary-School-600×400.jpg. 12/25/12 Update/Correction: Note that this photo of approximately fifteen children allegedly being evacuated from Sandy Hook Elementary was reportedly produced on December 14. See Connor Simpson, Alexander Abad-Santos et al, “Newtown School Shooting: Live Updates,” The Atlantic Wire, December 19, 2012. Still, the paltry number of children confirms the claim that little photographic evidence exists of Sandy Hook’s 600 students being moved from the facility on December 14. This photo was  from a Tweet of a Sandy Hook drill published by the school’s slain principal Dawn Hochsprung titled, “Safety First.” See Julia La Rouche, “Principal Killed in Sandy Hook Tweeted Picture of Students Practicing an Evacuation Drill,” Business Insider, December 16, 2012.

[11] Rob Dew, “Evidence of 2nd and 3rd Shooter at Sandy Hook,” Infowars Nightly News, December 18, 2012,  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nCFHImNeRw. A more detailed yet less polished analysis was developed by citizen journalist Idahopicker, “Sandy Hook Elem: 3 Shooters,” December 16, 2012. See also James F. Tracy, “Analyzing the Newtown Narrative: Sandy Hook’s Disappearing Shooter Suspects,” Memoryholeblog.com, December 20, 2012.

[12] W. Lance Bennett, News: The Politics of Illusion 9th Edition, Boston: Longman, 2012, 47.

-James F. Tracy

Andrew Whooley provided suggestions and research for this article.

Republished at GlobalResarch.ca on December 25, 2012.

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  1. Why was Victoria Soto’s memorial page set up on December 10th on facebook now changed to earlier in December? Why was the United Way for Newtown victims set up in advance??

    • “Why was Victoria Soto’s memorial page set up on December 10th on facebook now changed to earlier in December? Why was the United Way for Newtown victims set up in advance??”

      Freedom, the one created on December 10th was deleted. It was at http://www.facebook.com/RIP-Victoria-Soto . The three I found on FB all list as being created on or after Dec. 14.

      The United Way says they don’t know why it comes up like that, but that the content on their site regarding the Sandy Hook victims was definitely not added before the event. Supposedly they have some kind of website proof of that.

      To be honest, I’ve seen so many other problems with the whole Sandy Hook shooting thing that I wouldn’t quibble too much on these items. Computers can be weird about dates and times. I’d focus on the many, many other items that are far easier to prove definitively.

    • You can take a Facebook page and change the title while still retaining the original date of the original page. New page, same old date.

      • The sticking point with the FB page is that it’s different if you have a page with a specific URL. Once you get that URL, it won’t change. Again, I don’t believe this is one of the stronger issues. I’ve found other donation pages that were not on FB that had a creation date before the incident that I think have a stronger foundation for genuinely being created before it happened (not the United Way, but a couple of GoFundMe pages).

        The thing we have to remember is not to look at these things as individual incidents. We have to remember that any isolated “problem” doesn’t make a case. It’s when we take each of these individual suspicious things and start to put them together. As they pile up, they start to build a case.

        This is why they become suspicious, even though I don’t think you could use any one of them to build your entire case. The case is built by “coincidence” after “coincidence” after “coincidence.” One or two can be coincidence, but when you combine those with the rest of the “coincidences” you start to see the great volume of “coincidences” and they then become highly suspicious. You can only have so many coincidences in a row before they cease to be coincidences and become something more.

        Btw, I’ve made plenty of pages in FB and it’s just as easy to make a page from scratch than to take an existing page and make it over. Before all this came up, I’d never even though of changing one of my pages over to something else. I’d just make a brand new one. While it might be possible that the page started out differently and was changed over, I think it is highly unlikely that excuse is really the truth. When it comes to this whole Sandy Hook thing, I’m tired of hearing excuses. You can only excuse so much before the excuses wear pretty thin.

      • So you’re saying these pages were set up 4 days in advance and then retitled after the event finally transpired?

        • “So you’re saying these pages were set up 4 days in advance and then retitled after the event finally transpired?”

          That is a possibility as long as the number of people who have liked the page is less than 25 (I think that’s the number). When you reach that number, you can make your own URL (as long as it’s not used by someone else). So, it is possible that this person made a page and only had a few people who liked it, then the shooting happened and they changed everything to RIP-Victoria-Soto and reached the 25 so they could name the URL that. In this way, the original date on it could possibly be earlier than when it was converted over to the memorial page. I know you can’t get a specific URL unless you have the minimum 25 likes. In other words, you can’t create a page that is at http://www.facebook.com/RIP-Victoria-Soto. You’d have to create a page, get at least 25 people to like it, then get the URL.

          Like I said, it would be shaky to build a case on the whole “date” thing because there are ways of changing dates (most likely several I have no idea about). If this were the only issue, I’d say it’s not nearly enough to say something fishy is going on, but it’s not by far the only thing we have. There are far too many other things and they all help to build the case very well.

      • Hey Rick, I hope you find this. There was no place for me to reply next to your reply. You wrote “so you’re saying that these pages were set up 4 days in advance and then retitled after the event finally transpired?”
        Unfortunately, hackers have always had the ability to hack in and co-opt people’s pages. As I wrote below (or above, wherever this post ends up!) look at what just happened to NYTimes thanks to China. For me, it seems more plausible to consider that these pages are the result of hackers’ ruses, rather than the result of some players – whose sole job it was to set up memorials, etc., AFTER the event – who were so derilect in their responsibilities that they inexplicably thought the event had occurred before it actually did. I would also think that they would have scrambled like hell to remove the pages immediately upon realizing their blunder. The fact that these web pages were up post 12/14 gave me pause.

  2. Watched Gene Rosen again and some questions arose: how did the woman with the frozen face hear there were 6 kids there? He knew to take her to the firehouse, yet not the kids? Wouldn’t you think the first thing he might ask was “Who was that man?” (yelling at you) Can someone answer my questions about the family photo I posted above?

  3. Chalkbrd, “Hypothetically, as a teacher, I’d find it really hard to work there again, with memories of colleagues who had been killed and what happened that day so maybe I’d be in favor of tearing it down just from an emotional point of view. So I guess it’s logical for the community members to think about tearing it down…”

    Although that’s a valid point, I can’t think of any other tragic event that resulted in an entire building being torn down and rebuilt for emotional reasons rather than structural damage. I find it a little suspicious. Maybe they could tear down or demolish the entrance and the two classrooms where the killings supposedly took place, but the school is sprawled out, and it wouldn’t make sense to get rid of the whole thing. Columbine, Virginia Tech, the Aurora Movie Theater all were given the necessary repairs after the shootings there, but all are up and running again. They weren’t wiped off the face of the earth.

    A story about Columbine reads,
    “The broken glass had to be swept up and replaced. The bullet holes had to be plastered over, and everybody had to go on.
    Since that April day in 1999, nine classes have walked through its replaced glass doors, and out again.”

    Read more: Columbine: Memories at every turn – The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/columbine/ci_12174854#ixzz2JOGc1zJy

    I have a feeling the reason they want to tear down the school is because there will be a lack of physical evidence that supports the official stories. People will want to recreate the crime scene, and when they see a lack of bullet holes in the walls, blood stains, etc., they will begin asking questions. Also, perhaps the timeline of events will not make sense when someone tries to do a walk through of the crime. Who knows what you’d find, but by tearing down the entire school, they’re ensuring that no one will ever find it.

    • It just occurred to me that Obama would come up with some excuse to get himself out of trouble if it is proven that is the real Emilie on his knee. What could it possibly be? Wouldn’t the story have made more sense if they said that the family photo was taken a year or so ago instead of 4?

    • The Amish school was demolished only 10 days after the murders and a new one built only a few yards away. John Wayne Gacy’s house was demolished by court order.

      I’m not saying their reasoning is to spare people emotional suffering (I do believe it’s to eliminate evidence), but it does happen. I know of a house near here where an elderly man killed his wife and then himself and it is still vacant years after it happened. It’s hard for people to get past a murder taking place, especially where you will be constantly reminded of it.

      Imagine a family living in a house where someone came in and killed two of their children. The family would most likely not be able to continue living in that house because of the memories it would bring them about the incident and would probably end up moving. In some ways, this is what it would feel like for a teacher. Granted, it’s not our home, but we get very attached to “our” room at school. It would be emotionally difficult not to think about that murder whenever you walked by that specific place. Yes, remodeling would help, but if you’ve been attacked, it’s hard to go back to that same place again. Even if it didn’t really happen but the teachers genuinely believe it happened (were unwilling and unknowing participants in a drill), they would have to deal with the fear of it happening again.

      You’ve heard of people who drive and are in a serious accident and then don’t want to get in a car for a very long time. It would be similar to this.

      One of the factors that would play into the decision would be how old the building was to begin with. If the building was older, they might decide it would be more cost effective to demolish the school and build a new one instead of spending so much money into renovating it and adding on additional space to replace what was part of the shooting. If it was a brand new building (which is why Columbine didn’t demolish and chose to renovate…although demolish was discussed), they might opt for the less expensive renovation.

      Again, I’m not saying they aren’t trying to get rid of evidence (or lack of it). I think they are. But as a teacher, I can understand the emotions of not wanting to walk back in those doors again. To be honest, I wondered about them putting all the old desks in the rooms at the new school and trying to make the classrooms look the same. I wouldn’t have done that. I’d have made it all look different so they wouldn’t have an association fear or flashbacks caused by the look of the place.

      One of the options I’m not ruling out is that it was a drill that had all the sights and sounds of a real shooting to the untrained eye and ear. It could very well be that the teachers and children from that school genuinely did hear or see things that made them think it really happened. If this is the case, then for them it would be a constant reminder of the fear they felt. Being in a shooting (even if it wasn’t real but you thought it was) isn’t the same as falling off a bike. You don’t just get back on and everything’s fine again.

      Kind of a convenient coincidence that they just happened to have this empty middle school down the road, wasn’t it?

      • Chalkbrd, kind of a convenient coincidence, but, in fact, true. I’ve checked City-data.com, greatschools.com, patch.com and the Wayback Machine.

        A patch.com article from Nov 2010 discusses the closing of Chalk Hill School http://monroe.patch.com/articles/should-the-town-mothball-chalk-hill-school

        If you put Chalk Hill Middle School in the Wayback Machine you get a long list of articles about the school closing, what to do with it, etc.

        http://web.archive.org/liveweb/http://monroe.patch.com/search?_utf8=%E2%98%83&keywords=chalk+hill+middle+school

        OF COURSE, the news media lie as a MATTER OF COURSE. USA Today said this about the move from Sandy Hook to Newtown:
        “The building is “in very good condition” and will handle the entire Sandy Hill program, Newtown officials said in a statement on the town’s website.”
        http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/16/former-school-is-prepped-for-sandy-hook-pupils/1773549/

        And even patch.com who did all the reporting on the closing of the school doesn’t mention its poor shape in its article about the move.

        Now check out this article from Dec. 2010
        “Chalk Hill Middle School needs new boilers, windows and other code and safety upgrades — improvements that could carry a $15 million price tag, according to Arthur Baker, the facilities director for the district…’And the school is crumbling from its foundation.’

        http://web.archive.org/liveweb/http://monroe.patch.com/articles/school-board-debates-chalk-hills-future

        This is why no one can trust mainstream media: they lie even when they don’t have to OR they are just too lazy to research the stories they are writing!

        Also a tad strange, is that the Chalk Hill School was prepared within 2 weeks for the children to start attending on January 3rd. Yet the building was in bad shape:

        “Among the building’s problems, Palmer said Director of Facilities Arthur Baker told her replacement of underground water pipes to the boilers can no longer be put off.

        “”We have to do that now or there will be no heating this winter,” she said. “That’s another reason why it’s a risk to stay in that facility.”

        “Palmer said the pipes continue to break and there is concern the boilers will blow. Forty-year-old single-pane windows must also be replaced, she added.”

      • Hi chalkbrd, regarding the pre 12/14 webpages, I hear you. I’m just pointing out that any social media via the Internet can be hacked into. Look what just happened to the NYT thanks to China. For me it seems more reasonable to assume (and that’s what we’re all doing here, btw) that these pre 12/14 sites are hackers ruses rather than the alternative assumption, which would be that, for some inexplicable reason, all these players just plain didn’t notice that the event hadn’t occurred yet.

        At the end of the day, FB, Google, and any other site would likely have all the specific timeline information for these pages. Seems like someone should check into that.

        • “For me it seems more reasonable to assume (and that’s what we’re all doing here, btw) that these pre 12/14 sites are hackers ruses rather than the alternative assumption, which would be that, for some inexplicable reason, all these players just plain didn’t notice that the event hadn’t occurred yet.”

          I don’t believe it has anything at all to do with hacking and I think that’s an unreasonable explanation for the page dates. I cannot say for sure whether this person truly created another page four days before this and then decided to rename it and re-purpose it when the event happened or if this person created the page as part of this “operation” ahead of time without knowing it would show the date it was created. If you were creating a drill scenario and wanted it to be realistic, you’d create pages like that to perpetuate it. In fact, the Crisis Actors site told how some of their actors would specialize in “social media.” (I’ve pondered that a lot because I really don’t understand why anyone would need to have actors dealing with social media of any kind of it was only a DRILL.)

          As I said, I’ve created a few pages in FB and I didn’t know until I started researching this that it would show the date you created it. I guess if I’d thought about it, I’d have realized it, but it just never crossed my mind (it wouldn’t affect my pages in any way whether it does or not).

          I’m not saying hackers can’t do it, but it’s unreasonable to assume anything unusual about Sandy Hook is the work of a hacker instead of part of the overall underlying plan behind it.

    • It really makes no difference, in terms of evidentiary procedure, whether the school is torn down or not. It some point all of the evidence will have been gleaned. If the school stays up, they will have to clean, plaster, and repaint, as they should. There will be no more evidence to be found at that point. The same, obviously, will hold true if they rebuild. Sort of a moot point. The fact that people wouldnt want to literally be in a position to have to relive the tragedy on a daily basis seems rather normal to me. I had just read that there was a rather lengthy debate regarding the future of the aurora movie theater. The owner chose to reopen it.

  4. I hope you have all taken time to write or call your senator and make it clear you do not want any more gun control. I know they probably won’t listen or pay any attention, but we at least need to try.

  5. Contributing 2 missing informations and clarifying one misinformation:
    - the chase into the woods may have taken place at afternoon
    (this can be verified by shadow analysis)
    - a man from Newtown may in fact not be a member of an actors guild
    although he may have been in action at 10:30 at the firehouse

    • ” the chase into the woods may have taken place at afternoon
      (this can be verified by shadow analysis)”

      If it took place in the afternoon according to shadow analysis then we have even more of a problem with the footage because I saw it on TV in the morning during the early coverage. If it was shot in the afternoon, it was NOT the afternoon of 12/14/12 because it was aired before noon on that date.

  6. I have been reading along here and very intrigued by all the information and comments here. The implications that this is a hoax is very frightening! I have been interested in all the conflicting information and have spent a lot of time reading sites, comments, youtube videos and such, and one can only conclude that there is something wrong about all of this. The medical examiner’s odd interview is what did it for me. On that alone it shows how fake it all is. I looked for images in google for Wayne Carver and you can see it isn’t the same man. Are there any videos of the real Wayne Carver out there for comparison? The guy they passed off on CNN is a complete idiot, very inappropriate and unprofessional. His demeanor is very suspicious. Someone needs to find the real Wayne Carver. There has to be more to that story. Also, about the Emilie picture– when someone commented that the ages didn’t match up and it would have to be the younger sister who died and that makes no sense– what about the Aunt’s comments (on a news interview) when she said something to the effect of Emilie’s “big sisters”? That seemed a bit odd of a comment from a family member. I don’t have the link to the video but I’m sure someone here has seen that. I don’t think we will ever have any real answers to all the inconsistencies, but there are far too many to just explain away.

    • I agree, we’ll never get the truth in this life. Also agree, there are too many inconsistencies to explain away. Anyone can see it, which is what makes some of them so angry. Anger is supposed to be a great cover-up, or something.

    • I feel paranoid, but suspicious that every time I come here my computer freezes up. Anyone else? Don’t know what pictures doesn’t look like Carver, I only saw from Sandy Hook. I lost the quote but he said basically that like more bacteria in water causes more people to get diarrhea, more guns cause more people to be shot. He is a big time proponent of gun control, the more the merrier.

  7. This site and another site, nodisinfo.com has the most reliable and thought out commentary that I have seen so far. I am sure most of the people here are familiar with that site. I find it absolutely amazing the eagle eye of the person regarding the photoshopped pictures that are still coming out. That alone tells you there is a massive cover up going on. I still don’t know that we will have resolution to any of this but there are many people like me who are weighing all the evidence and finding it to be very unsettling. All I can really say is that for me, this just underscores that we need to be spiritually ready because this life is not all there is. They can take away guns, freedoms, etc but no one can take your soul. Those who have eyes to see and ears to hear, make your spiritual readiness your priority. That is what I am doing. God bless!

    • Some of the information on nodisinfo is perceptive but it seems to have a specific ethnic agenda – Anti-Semitic. If these trauma-scene connected people really are actors and actresses, do you really think the names they assume in “real life” are going to be any more real than their stage or crisis names????? Do you really think the first few layers of their personal will allow you access to their “True” name and reflect their True ethnicity? That seems like a childish assumption for somebody like nodisinfo who is SO asstute and has put so much effort into searching for anomalies, inconsistencies and lies. There is obviously an agenda going on with nodisinfo. The last thing we need is to wake up to one lie and run into the arms of another lie.

      • There seems to be a lot of Photoshopping going on according to that site. Maybe, but in the interest of truth, see http://www.abqjournal.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/a01_jd_17dec_emilie1new.jpg for the recent Christmas card pictures where you can see that the middle sister looks like, I believe, the girl on Obama’s lap. This was supposedly posted by a friend from Utah where they lived last year. Of course, its possible that it is a fake, but I don’t think so. “Yet the individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst. It rejects even the assumption that human creatures could espouse a philosophy which must ultimately destroy all that is good and decent….the American citizen must hew to a line comprised of a little skepticism, a lot of knowledge, monumental faith, and an everlasting desire to get the facts. He must ascertain for himself what the facts are. He must accept nothing less than the facts— neither the majority version nor the minority version. He must view all the evidence until the face of truth is plain.” – J. Edgar Hoover

        • Did you see the obvious photoshop pic of Obama “shooting Skeet” yesterday? The way he has that 12 gagage against his shoulder, he is gonna be sore for days. Also note that skeet shooters aim their shotgun UP, where the target is, not to the horizon. And NO shotgun shell blows so much smoke all over the place since the invention of smokeless powder over 100 years ago.

      • My sentiments exactly, Angela. I am very skeptical of the information on that site because it is far too quick to ascribe blame for this to some global “Zionist” plot, and I’m just not comfortable with that.

        That’s not to say all of the info on nodisinfo is biased, but I think we have to view the site with the understanding of the inherent bias in it’s evaluation of the information it is finding. (Which is why I don’t think I’d equate it at all to this site and the information I’ve found here. As far as I have seen, people are posting on here mostly logical observations and conclusions they have come to without espousing any particular theory about the origins of this hoax, especially not Dr. Tracy.) I’m sure everyone has their pet theories as to who is behind this and why, but I think we do a great disservice when we focus on a theory instead of on the facts we have at hand.

        With that said, I found one piece of info I thought was interesting. The mother of Benjamin Wheeler used to work as the personal assistant to Maureen White, the finance chairwoman of the DNC, which appears to be the closest tie I’ve seen to directly connecting in this hoax with the Democrat party (other than the meeting Holder had with the governor and lt. governor and the “quiet” meeting he had a few days after the shooting with the first responders). http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/07/style/weddings-francine-lobis-david-wheeler.html As to be expected, this wedding announcement clearly says they both have a background in acting.

  8. As to the tape, don’t really know what to think. I came across this on YT
    Tom Sullivan 1 day ago
    I spent many years as a broadcast engineer and I can tell you someone has been cutting in clips on this as rabbit holes to lead everyone off to crazy town… I loaded this into soundbooth and compared it to another that I have from the 15th and some of the things like ” end the life of adam ” are punchins, well done but punchins all the same. The giveaway is visible in the waveform as variations in the background noise.·
    WHTT 2 days ago
    ” the entire CT State emergency communications system was ‘hijacked’ and ‘unplugged’ on December 14th., 2012, per an elaborate frequency change plan implemented merely 5 hours in advance on that morning, effectively supplanting and replacing normal police and EMS with FEMA / DHS ‘shadow’ command center personnel” Documented. Search the words in quotes to read article.
    To me the voice of the whisper sounds like the same as the previous speaker· Happened just as they were entering the school.

  9. In addition to the hundred or so questions that I have(that were not answered by the MSM investigative journaljsts, or the police/authorities) the one thing I dont understand is how the teachers/administrators perceived the actual sound of the rifle. From the timeline at 11:44 “half dozen thunderous rounds . . .to enter the school”) One might think this description is overdramatic- but I can assure you it is accurate, and this is when he is still outside ! Once inside the school, each round fired would be deafening. I once fired my AR-15 from inside my living room, through an open window, at a coyote that had just killed my last peacock(I lived WAY OUT in the country – no neighbors) Only one shot and I was unable to hear anything except a loud ringing for about 15 minutes and my hearing was only about 50% for the rest of the day. Throughout the accounts of what happened from those involved, we hear phrases like ” pop pop pop”, “we didn’t know what it was at first”, “sounded like someone kicking the door”, and my favorite, (I am paraphrasing) “I heard the fear/terror in my coworkers voice as she yelled out to warn me/us, AND I KNEW SOMETHING WAS TERRIBLY WRONG” B. S .! ! ! Unless she was 2 or 3 hundred feet away and behind several closed doors she did not hear anything over the rifle and the corresponding echo from each round, which was being fired at approx one round per second according to the official version. The other woman that called 911 would not have heard when the phone was answered on the other end, and who ever answered the phone would not have had to say “she said someone was shooting in the school” because she would have heard it for herself. I’m pretty sure someone with knowledge of firearms added the detail that Lanza had earplugs, otherwise he would have been deaf and not able to hear first responders coming so he would know when to shoot himself – - even though he was wearing body armor which would indicate that he was going to escape after he was done. My point, hearing protectiion is not optional unless you love hearing damage and bruised eardrums AND the survivors never heard an AR-15 being fired.

    • “Once inside the school, each round fired would be deafening.”

      I agree with you. The “pop pop pop” and other descriptions of the sound of an AR-15 are just not realistic. One person on here stated that the sound produced is 155 decibels, which is like putting your ear against a speaker at a rock concert. Not only would we have heard it in the background on the police audio, but the firemen at the fire station (a mere .3 of a mile away) would have heard it and been first on the scene. Neighbors behind the school could have easily heard it as well. Every “witness” they interviewed would have mentioned the loud sounds first and foremost because of the volume, even if you were in an enclosed classroom (classrooms are not nearly as soundproof as people think they are…you hear things from other classrooms through the ceiling tiles).

      “even though he was wearing body armor which would indicate that he was going to escape after he was done.”

      The latest I saw was that he was not wearing body armor but merely an olive green fishing vest. I think “they” modified it when we pointed out that a scrawny, non-athletic 120 pound kid (that’s the weight the ME said) could not have worn body armor (20-30 pounds in weight), carried 3 handguns and an AR-15 (15-20 pounds), and over 600 rounds of ammo (30 pounds) and still been able to move around.

      Not sure where in that fishing vest he put 600 rounds of ammo (enough “to shoot everyone” in the school). And, of course, now they are saying he had only ONE 30-round magazine. How he killed 26 people with at least 3 bullets each from that AR-15 when he only had one 30-round magazine with him, well, another crazy idea they expect us to believe.

  10. A couple of questions.. Was Adam Lanza buried, did he have a funeral? Has Dr Carver come out with his autopsies yet? or are they all going to be private. Anybody got any info on this?

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  12. Except that it’s not all that unrealistic that these families would choose to grieve privately, is it?

    It’s just a coincidence that the only subject they want to go public on is their calls for GUN CONTROL.

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