An Inquisitive Couple’s Visit to Newtown, Connecticut

Updated February 17, 2013

Photos and Commentary by Scott DeLarm
Edited by James F. Tracy


My partner and I became fed up with the mainstream media’s depiction of what took place in Newtown, Connecticut on December 14, 2012. So on January 20 we traveled there from our home in Ottawa Canada in an effort to visit the sites and respectfully approach the locals.





Before we even got off the highway there was a display of dozens of American flags on the shoulder. There is a large tented memorial located just off the freeway. The tent had a sign on the outside, “Sandy Hook Memorial Never Forgotten.” Inside the tent was a chaplain who asked that I not take any photos. There were hundreds of stuffed animals and candles as well as children’s art from around the country–if not the world. Inside was also a donation jar that was at mid-afternoon close to full of money. We signed one of the boards with condolences from Canada. I saw adults and children inside the tent on the two visits we made. No one was there who was impacted directly. I asked the chaplain if she had seen any children whom had been impacted. She did not answer.



We spent January 21 in Newtown visiting the Sandy Hook School and Sandy Hook Volunteer Fire House, Gene Rosen’s residence, the 100 Church Hill Restaurant (and pub), the Newtown Bee offices, as well as the Newtown Police Department. We found that the school can not be seen from the front when coming down Riverside Road which is the only access to the school passing the fire house. This may explain why there was no “media” photos of the broken / shot out glass at the front.




Dickenson Road was closed with layers of orange cones and numerous “No Trespassing” signs. The entire school is now enclosed with fencing, barbed wire, no trespass and surveillance signage.




The front of the school is entirely boarded up which would be consistent with broken glass. The lettering from the front of the school “Sandy Hook Elementary” is removed.





The side door and other windows were not boarded up.  No cameras could be seen at the front door or anywhere on the property.

Gene Rosen lives next door to the fire house. Thus Ms. Victoria Soto’s students that landed on Mr. Rosen’s yard had to come down Dickenson Drive and turn right, passing the fire house, to get to Mr. Rosen’s. A lady at the Rosen house would not answer the door when I knocked.


We sat at the 100 Church Hill Restaurant for a couple of hours. There were about 10 people inside. There were about 100 drawings from children from around the country (if not the world) offering condolences and well wishes. No one was talking about these.

My partner and I spoke with a couple in their early twenties for an hour or so. They were life long locals. Eventually they asked why we were in Newtown and we told them we had heard of their tragedy. They did not comment further and we did not push the issue.  Later, I mentioned that I had read online where some people had suggested that Newtown might have a lively Satanic community. One of the two locals remarked, “I could believe that.”


We then went to the offices of The Newtown Bee, the community’s  weekly newspaper, where we spoke with the editor, Mr. Curtis Clark. Mr. Clark did not offer a warm reception and stated from the start that they were concentrating the paper’s efforts on healing efforts and that he had little time. I told him I was there to follow up on The Bee’s report that stated, in part, “A man with a gun who was spotted in the woods near the school on the day of the incident was an off-duty tactical squad police officer from another town, according to the source.” I asked who this officer was, and why he was in the woods.


Mr. Clark told me that there was a number of “conspiracy theories floating around” and “some of them even suggest that the shooting didn’t even happen.” Furthermore, “ debunks many of these conspiracy theories.”

I told Clark I was familiar with Snopes, but it was The Bee that reported that this was an off duty officer prancing about in the woods on the day of the shooting. Clark would not address this report and became very agitated with me “interrogating” him. “I don’t intend to discuss this any further with you,” he said. Mr. Clark then referred me to the Newtown Police for any additional questions. As I was walking out of the office I overheard a lady on the phone explaining to a caller that “there is an ongoing investigation,” and referring the caller to


Next, we proceeded to the Newtown Police Department.  After entering I walked up to the glassed-in safety window, picked up the phone on the wall and asked the attendant on the other side if I could speak with the Communications Officer. I explained why. He directed me to  The Newtown Bee.

I advised him that The Bee had directed me to them and he asked me to have a seat. The room was rectangular with doors on both ends. Then, a male and female police officer simultaneously entered through each door. I addressed the female sergeant, telling her I would like to know who was the off duty tactical officer The Bee reported on on December 27. A male officer I was not addressing repeatedly ordered me to remove my hands from my pockets.


The female sergeant told me that the man detained was the uncle of a student at the school who had gone to get his niece. I asked about the police scanner audio where the dispatcher reports that a caller from inside the school saw “two shadows” run by the gym at the back of the school.

Additionally, an officer apparently arriving at the scene stated

“I’ve got ’em (sic).  They are running at me down Crestwood.”

Crestwood Drive borders that backside of the school beyond some woods. The sergeant told me that this was the confusion of the day and that there were not two individuals. “It was just someone that went crazy, killed a bunch of people and then killed himself,” she said consolingly.

“You have nothing to worry about. You are safe.”

I still wonder.


James F. Tracy
February 17, 2013
Stefan Mark Stanford

Dear Stefan Mark Stanford,
I am addressing you as the publisher and legally responsible party of the website. It has come to my attention that you have appropriated my intellectual work and intentionally represented it in such a way that the original meaning of the work may be grossly misunderstood. This piece, edited for Scott DeLarm, initially appeared on my website, on January 28, 2012 as “An Inquisitive Couple’s Visit to Newtown Connecticut.” The article was republished in its original form with my consent by Global Research as “The Sandy Hook Tragedy: An Inquisitive Visit to Newtown Connecticut” on January 29, 2012.

On February 16, 2012 you republished a revised version of the piece with a new title, “Canadians Visit Sandy Hook, Astounding Revelations.” In the February 16 version by your contributor there are false and misleading claims of DeLarm’s alleged investigation of Iroquois Gas Company’s subterranean natural gas transmission lines in Newtown Connecticut. Your contributor’s clear appropriation and misuse of the piece is of special concern as I along with Delarm have in no way made such analyses or drew any such conclusions on the relationship of Iroquois Gas to the Sandy Hook tragedy and victim families. In the February 16 post to your site your contributor stripped the original title of said work and replaced it with another title and prefatory remarks, thus distorting the work’s original intent and calling into question your legally defensible republication of the work under “Fair Use” stipulated on my website.

On the morning of February 17 I noted that you have revised the piece, removed Mr. DeLarm’s name, and redirected readers to the original piece at Even though there are now seemingly two separate pieces and a link to my site the potential impression remains that DeLarm and I in some way investigated and implicated Iroquois Gas in the Sandy Hook tragedy–a claim we cannot realistically make and thus vigorously dispute.

Thank you for your prompt attention to the above.


James F. Tracy

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333 thoughts on “An Inquisitive Couple’s Visit to Newtown, Connecticut”

  1. Thank you.

    Did you ask the Newtown Bee who on their staff, and how on earth was it possible, to wrongly attribute a quote from Dawn Hochsprung, Sandy Hook Principal and a victim of the shooting?

      1. Google CPS (Child Protective Services) + handprint. That logo looks very, very similar to this one. And that’s scary enough.

        But then…Shhh….??? WTH

    1. No. This question was not asked. The two employees we met were very clear that they had little time for (or tolerance) for us.

      1. I believe that the red hand print is the usual logo (predating this event) of the Sandy Hook Hair Co.

      2. Thank you very much for sharing the pictures and experiences. I sure wished I could go take a look, You’ve given us a peek. 🙂 That comment that the former hair salon *got pushed out a couple years ago for no reason* is interesting. My hypothesis is this tragedy has been being planned since 2009 when the Sandy Hook school year reports began to be “projected.”

      3. Probably because they knew you were gonna start asking about Scott Vollmer, who happened to out of town (lives in Hoboken only a few miles from Ryan Lanza) two weeks before the shooting.

        The same Scott Vollmer who is actually the events director for Bloomberg. Seeing as how an eyewitness identified a suspect as the son of a kindergarten teacher, maybe the news would have been looking at which kindergarten teachers had sons. Mrs. Vollmer is one that people found. If there are any others I’d love to know, because I’ve been told that only one kindergarten teacher at Sandy Hook had a son in his 20-30s.

        Pretty fascinating that such a close Bloomberg connection would emerge, and even more fascinating that neither he nor anyone in the media made the connection. Usually this sort of thing is reported on, because it “brings the story home” If it wasn’t a touchy subject, I’m sure Bloomberg would have been going on and on about it, his personal connection to the attack. This is #2 since his spokesman, Aurora victim Stephen Barton, grew up and lived 3 miles from Sandy Hook.

      4. I have seen that shhh… alot in recent weeks, last week here:
        A lot of singers have it on their fingers and a rapper even talks about it in one of his songs.

        I’m just an idiotic, ironic, symbolic, Illuminati product
        That’s gonna be killed if I talk about it (shhh)

        Some sites say it has something to do with the illuminati and mind control

    2. not sure if the boarded front door means it was broken out!, Ur pic shows all the windows near there were boarded up very consistantly

    3. “” Are they kidding. Snopes is run by a woman & her husband from their home. Basically, bloggers. Now, they are sources to contact when questions arise. That is a hoot. Sandy Hoax was such a sloppy Satanic ritual. All I can say is, “You know its a hoax when you are told to contact for answers. I have heard some funny things about Newtown, but that is the funniest. Just as 911, no one died. It was a part of the Satanic (Sandy being a nickname for Satan) begun on Oct 29, the Samhain Satanic ritual. US govt, military & police are practitioners of witchcraft. Feb. 2 is Imbolc Satanic/wiccan holiday. Look forward to a huge Satanic ritual at the Satanic Super Bowl in New Orleans.

      1. Linda, your work here, exposing this as a satanic ritual, must have been exhausting. And now that all your conclusive evidence is in, it’s time we submerge all the Sandy Hook residents under water. That way we’ll know who’s a witch and who isn’t.

      2. Interesting “ad hominem” logical fallacy attacks with reference to who runs/writes What does that have to do with the research done and the references cited? Read and analyze the facts and arguments before developing your own opinion – basic critical thinking.

      3. I’m not an expert on witchcraft, but I thought Wiccans were believers/practitioners of the old pagan religions, which did not know of Satan (who comes from Chrisitian religious beliefs). Are they combining into a new religion now?

      4. I know alot of people cannot abide the occult dimenions of this but the thing is the psychopaths who run the government, the military and the media DO! See Alex Jones’ expose of Bohemian Grove if you’re not convinced.

        Linda, I think the ritual sacrifice of children is a legitimate aspect of this atrocity but coming on Dec 14 it is most likely to have been in honour of the beginning of the pagan festival known as Saturnalia that runs during the 10 days before Christmas and is traditionally associated with human sacrifice. I strongly suspect, but have no way of proving it, that many of these children were kidnapped and sacrificed prior to the staged event, rather than gunned down by “Adam Lanza”. and that would explain the total absence of corpses and a crime scene.

    4. Newtown Police first responders arrive at the scene putting themselves in harms way encountering gunshots,” multiple weapons including shotguns and rifles”, multiple fleeing suspects in the woods and on Crestwood street and also confront an armed tactical squad officer from another town.

      And Lt Vance said they may have detained incidental bystanders if they were in the area cutting wood?

      And the Newtown PD public relations liaison indicated that the tactical squad officer detained was the uncle of a child at the school and that he was there to pick up his niece?

      1. oh and by the way I forgot to mention the maroon van with individuals in ski masks and a Nun’s outfit

      2. Newtown PD public relations liaison response to all of this – “The sergeant told me that this was the confusion of the day and that there were not two individuals. “It was just someone that went crazy, killed a bunch of people and then killed himself,” she said consolingly.

        “You have nothing to worry about. You are safe.””

      3. I want to confirm that there was definitely talk of a purple or maroon van seen at the school and someone in a nun outfit. Why has Paul Vance not addressed this? The van was seen surrounded by police in a nearby town after the report. Also why is Paul Vance telling the public not to comment or “report” information. Since when did we lose our freedom of speech? Also, if that man was an uncle of a student, why was he wearing fatigues and running?

      1. Great article. Thank you fro your courage in contacting the Bee. Please continue your investigation for all of us who want the truth.

    5. This apparently is a picture of the armed off duty SWAT officer that was an uncle to one of the students and he stopped by to pick them up. He is in the black coat consistent with the description of one of the parent witnesses. It appears that the student is not with him in the picture but that he is spending some time with Assistant State Attorney Warren Murray. Maybe he is Warren Murray’s uncle ?

      Libor Jany @ljanyNT

      Supervisory Assistant State’s Attorney Warren Murray just showed up. Standing next to the police cruiser holding POI.
      4:00 PM – 14 Dec 12 from Connecticut, US, United States


      andy thibault jim hoffer FrankFire Charlie Judy Clarke
      8:00 AM – 14 Dec 12 from Connecticut, US


      Ok, I’ve not seen this out much – but, what
      I think one of the more interesting aspects to this is the relation of the Iroquois gas line, the major squabble over it being put in through where Sandy Hook elementary is, and that also most all of the victims houses line up to where the gas line as put through. Coincidentally, many of the houses the victims were supposed to have lived in at the time of the shooting were all sold on 12/25/09, which is the same time Iroquois gas, Newtown, and the State of Connecticut can be found to have purchased most, if not almost all of the victims homes – which in another remarkable coincidence..all line up under where Iroquois Gas ran their new line.

      Here is some of the info, and Ill leave the link where you can see the maps of how the homes have been plotted via google ~ and they line up perfectly (along w Sandy Hook Ele.) w the gas line.

      While reviewing property appraisal records of the Sandy Hook victims, I noticed that there are many cases where “last sold date” is listed as 12/25/09 – too many to be a coincidence. I looked at the entries for these properties in more detail and none of them correlate with that date (12/25/09). They have various sale dates listed but nothing on 12/25/09.
      Here’s an example – 37 Yogananda St.
      While looking at areas near Sandy Hook school, I noticed that Treadwell Park is right behind it. Look closely at the sign at the park: (It says “Iroquois Gas Transmission System”, St. of Conn. etc) In the Region: Connecticut and Westchester; Making the Iroquois Pipeline Palatable
      May 24, 1992
      THE Iroquois Gas Transmission System may have found an aspirin for the headaches its highway and corporate construction projects cause communities they intrude upon.(…)..Embarked on a $10 million program to compensate 60 New York State and Connecticut towns disrupted by the installation of its 370-mile-long natural gas pipeline. The money will pay for the purchase of open space and the enhancement of environmental and recreational facilities. (cont.)
      Announcement in 1986 of the taking of private property under a Federal mandate created a firestorm of protest in the affected towns. In Connecticut, residential communities beginning with Sherman at the crossover point from New York State, then winding through New Milford, Brookfield, Newtown, (both articles @ link)
      Phase 1, a 1.6 mile pipeline loop in Newtown, CT, was placed into service November 14, 2008.
      From this newsletter, here are a couple of photos of the pipeline installations. Also note that the newsletter is from Winter ’09 which would be consistent with the “last sold date” of 12/25/09.
      ***I looked at all the properties of the child victim’s homes since they all live in and around Sandy Hook. I believe the adult victims are all from residing areas, outside of the Newtown area.
      I mapped the school and all of the victim’s properties and compared it to the gas line loop just to see if there was any commonality.
      (Posted Image)
      **As you can see, many of the homes are right near the gas line loop. The bottom marker is actually Fan Hill Rd in Monroe. I marked it just to see where it fell on the line since the new Sandy Hook school is supposedly there.
      Many of the victim’s properties show that at least some of the homes were purchased by Iroquois Gas, the state of Connecticut and the town of Newtown. This happens to be the street where the Pozner’s are supposed to live..**
      Another thing that’s very odd is that all of the streets in Sandy Hook appear to be privately owned. You are not able to see them with Google Street View. I can’t see any of the homes of victims and I looked around in the general area and none of the side streets can be viewed.
      I looked at my own street in my subdivision and I could see it with street view. The street behind me is private and sure enough, I couldn’t use Street view on it.
      If you look at the victim’s properties on Spokeo, the majority of them don’t show up as a residence. You can see a house but it isn’t highlighted as a residence with a list of names.
      I also found a couple of websites that list Newtown schools but do not include Sandy Hook school.
      To view the rest, maps most of all go to;

      I find this to be more than interesting (and yet another WILD coincidence)…that so many of the victims homes, and the school would line up right under recently acquired property of Iroquois Gas, St. of Conn. and Newtown Also remember how many ppl were relatively new to the area, even a neighbor of the Lanzas said that while most neighbors knew each other – they did not know the Lanzas.
      Just take a look at the maps on this link, and I think it will “click” for you – that here again..something just isnt right here.
      Also along w Adam Lanza being shown as having died a day before, he also does not show up as being an associated person w Peter and Nancy – only Ryan shows up. (and recall the first stories that were sourced to unnamed officials – about how there was a body found in Ryans Hoboken Apartment, and that his girlfriend and her friend were missing!? It was even in the first reports that Peter Lanza was dead –
      My point is – this isnt just confusion from trying to report quickly on an intense story – these were entirely different story lines!
      I hope someone here would lay this out, pictures that it is easier for the viewer to see what I tried to explain in words.

      Although this isnt direct evidence of anything – I think it is an important part of piecing this highly strange story together.

  2. Freedom is lost to tyranny once again. We had such a great country. Now we must watch what we say and do and be worried for our safety if we question the official story. This technique has been used over and over again. It worked really well in Russia in 1917 the red terror was identical. If you question anything or if your neighbor says you said something your life was terminated. The Russians had guns which were required to be registered. Once registerd new laws were En acted to slowly and steatlhfully disarm the people. Millions of regular everyday people all throughout Russia were killed. Wives had to pay to get thier husbands bodies. Why can’t we learn from the past? Why do the tyrants who control the central banks want us all dead? If you think about it they have coffins and camps and motive! They have destroyed America and we are oblivious to the plan. We can only assume that If we do nothing the bankers will control every aspect if our lives. If they truly reduce our numbers as they say they will then this blog and and it’s findings are a mini revolution. I am afraid however it’s simply not enough to stop the bankers they have more than 100 years head start and since JFK no one has dared to stand up to them. Lord help us. We are in big trouble with evil powers so great they control the entire world and now they want to take our guns and slaughter us. We should all pray this goes away! What’s even more sad is we have been outsmarted! Even if every American stood up to them they still would win because they control the military ! They control the media. There will no longer be free republic. They have set the perfect trap! If we fight we loose. If we don’t fight we loose! Does anyone on here have any idea how we can save our own lives?

    1. No need to hit the panic button just yet. Many in the military won’t go along with their plans as they took an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution. They would most likely have to use a foreign military/mercenary force. Also some 180 million Americans are well armed thus the govt does not have the manpower and resources to disarm everyone. They will use the weapon of fear to get you to comply. Many people around the globe are waking up to their evil designs. The solution is to keep shining the light of truth, store food and other vitals and be prepared to live off the grid and the land worse case scenario. Lastly, keep God in your heart and if you are atheist or agnostic, know that a greater force trumps the mundane, diabolical machinations of man. Peace and stay positive as every thought is energy spent.

      1. I expect that the Internet will be shut down soon. It provides a vast forum for those who do not like this fascist regime to join voices. People I have only recently met are telling me that they feel something is “coming”.
        I think that they are very astute.

    2. I’ve been away and very busy, but yes, I know exactly how you can save your own lives. Start by finally seeing the obvious for what it is: YOU couldn’t pull this shit off if you tried. Why? Because YOU lack the kind of money and power it takes to pull off this shit. It takes extreme wealthpower to be able to pull off these type murders, put the blame on patsies, and get away with it every goddamn time.

      Now, proceed from that realization to internalizing the fact that the ability of the wealthpowerful ones (who do this nasty business precisely because it increases their wealthpower) to conceal their true identities and deeds IS ALWAYS going to exceed YOUR ability to discover and expose their true identities and deeds.

      If you can drive your mind to become perfectly jiggy with reality, if you can find the discipline of mind to become perfectly logical and rational, the foregoing steps will lead you to the rational conclusion that only way exists to save your lives:

      Murder the diabolically stupid idea to allow wealthpower giants on this planet.

      The difference between myself and everybody else on this site is this: You were all hoping that after JFK and September 11 and all the rest, that THIS event would be the one that FINALLY revealed the truth about conspiracies… whereas I was hoping that this event would finally reveal to conspiracy-truthers that, as I said above, THE REAL PERPS’ power to conceal their true identities and deeds IS ALWAYS going to EXCEED your ability to expose them.

      For exactly as long as humans reject the fairpay justice that alone can save us and keep loyal instead to the overpayunderpay overpowerunderpower all-grab-for-all-grab-off-and grab-back economic dystems that are killing us all and this planet – that is how long a fraction few humans are going to have the kind of wealthpower it takes to make human history be whatever the wealthpower giants say it will be.

      You savvy?

      1. I do understand that the first line of defense is getting “real” about everything; As Lloyd Pye’s book title states ‘Everything You Know is Wrong’ …and it is.

        After recovering from this truth it might help to read anything by Gregg Braden, Dan Winter or any other Quantum Theorist, about the true nature of who we are and what it is we are doing on planet Earth. This is going to be so difficult for so many as they have been taught only a physical reality. We have not only been dumbed down through the “education system” ( check out the work of Charlotte Iserbyt ) but also through the system of Religion. Keeping us in a perpetual state of denial about our true nature means that we continually focus on our physical survival…at any cost.
        What is actually taking place here on Earth is nothing short of Spiritual Abuse. If we have full command of consciousness then we cannot be infected with the lies of church and state….but, so few have knowledge or understanding of this so are easily manipulated.
        This is a battle for the human’s soul playing out on Earth. The way to capture the soul is through the manipulation of the mind (brain) and then the heart. Once these first bastions of protection are breached the soul can be directed to participate in things beneath their inherent nature.

        If you truly want to save your “life” then you might want to place particular focus on the reality of our true nature. Our lives, though precious, are fleeting in the grand scheme of spiritual evolution. It is more important what we do with our time here ( what we invest our energy in ) than how long we live.
        Ignorance is our greatest threat and enemy…and those in power have used this to their advantage. That is all.
        I will continue to see a way forward out of this madness but it requires a massive dose of reality and commitment to stay in that reality. No one need “fight” these people as it is evident that the only way that they have “power” is through us relenquishing ours.
        Disenfranchise them as they disenfranchise and marginalize us. Give them no power to create or enforce laws. It is called Civil Disobedience.
        Do not pay taxes. Do not join the service. Do not work within the “government” in any capacity. To do so is to serve a very dark force. Do not work in the MSM in any capacity. Do not give yourself a title…however much you feel you “earned” it or “deserve” it. Denounce all forms of conscription whether through religious, institutional or governmental affiliation. It may appear that we “volunteered” to be part of something greater than ourselves but, in all actuality, it is indeed conscription.
        Do not work for the pharmaceutical companies or medical institutions. Do not participate in the making or creating of commercials for these criminal corporations. They are in the business of profit. Care and Profit do not make good bedfellows. One usually ends up being suffocated.
        Dismantle this “system” of materialism and profit. That is a start.

        If we physically survive this phase then we could possibly save what is truly important; Our Souls.

    3. DO you understand what I am saying,Truth seeker? You cannot BEAT these extremely wealthpowerful people. You have to get RID of them. And you cannot get rid of them while people still believe in HAVING them!

      For as long as they EXIST you will be running behind them striving and failing to defeat them while they laugh at you all the way to the bank. They WANT you to keep on spending your time and exhausting yourselves in futile pursuit of exposing their real identities and deeds – precisely because that leaves you with no time left for the project of murdering the very bad idea to allow them in the first place!

      1. I see your point! But they fear the truth! They fear exposure! They fear us as a whole! The only way to derail mind control is become awake and join the movement to restore America to its original design. This grand experiment is being tested. Tyranny is not new but freedom needs constant vigilance. Power to overcome tyrants is inside of all of us! No matter how powerful and wealthy it is the greed and indulgence that destroys them internally and they like others will fail. They may lower are numbers but there is a God and he favors the truthful and despises the vultures who feed off of our goodness. Vegence is mine saith The Lord! I will strike down upon the with furious anger those who stand in the path of the rightoues man. We the people are truthful and rightoues we have the almighty on our side and will evolve out of needing the kymatica control syndicate that seeks to do us harm. Who is with me?

      2. We are all born with equal amount of power they just choose to tell us we have none and we have made the choice to believe them. Ive stopped believing that and my powers says theirs is extremly flawd . Being evil is a brittle weak thing true power dose not break it lifts up and empowers the weakest link in its chain…

      1. Jamie – your comment about ‘people you’ve only met recently’ bothers me. If you’ve met them recently be very suspicious of where any discussions with them go. You’re an active poster here, maybe elsewhere too? And people who open up to the degree that they will tell you so soon that they think ‘something’ is going to happen, may next try to lead you into taking some kind of action. Entrapment is a favorite trick of the FBI as you may surmise by the fact that all the ‘terrorists’ they’ve caught so far were basically dummies who got entrapped by them.

        This stuff was going on at Kent State (and all over the country too) 43 years ago before the shootings, so they’ve only gotten lots more practice. Please be very careful.

      2. I am as usual quite fascinated with the comments here and want to chime in to rev. dave that caution and *rigorous* skepticism is needed when forming any alliances with those who claim to be like-minded. I along with a group of others, many of whom I had never communicated with, got our accounts closed down on Facebook after I suggested to a webposter that we mass-inform, through emails, the members of a site spuriously claiming to be ‘pro’ a certain issue. I’d realized it was a set up and told one other member, then got connected to another through her. In real time I found out that the first person was legit, but the inauthentic profile she steered me to, whom I informed of my insight and plan, then got a bunch of posters to falsely ‘report’ our posts ( the site was dedicated to freeing a woman who was falsely accused of murder). Within hours our id’s on FB were closed. I learned later through a semi-famous blogger, with two PhD’s, on the topic that I was a part of this bunch of people unjustifiably closed down. I’m pretty certain my instigation was the catalyst; I wanted to inform the people who innocently joined that the person running the site was a fraud and direct them to a genuine one through short mass-mailed pm’s.

        Later people who were running the campaign to free this woman confirmed that the site-moderator was likely insincere. That was just the tech program on FB that is easy to rig if people want to. Please consider the possible agendas of not only any website you post on but also rev. dave’s comments about the federal government.

        1. Chime in “to” me, or “with me”.? Wasn’t I the one saying to be careful? I was AT Kent State for cryin’ out loud. I trust our government about as far as I can pick up an FBI agent and throw him by sticking my pinky finger in his ass.

      3. Also, rev. dave, I’m interested in how the FBI was infiltrating and/or what sounds like even setting people up at Kent State if you want to share. I’d never heard that before.

      4. Reply to Rev.Dave: Dear rev, your comment is what is wrong with humans. They constatntly project their reality ( or a manufactured reality that they eagerly adopt ) onto others. In order for what you stated to be possible I must possess a severe lack of autonomy. When a person has no autonomy they are easily enlisted to do anothers bidding.
        When a person has no autonomy they live through the mind of the ‘Asymmetrical Power System’ because they have no ‘mind’ of their own. I will paint a picture of what this looks like:.
        1) “Serving” your country
        2) “Serving” on civic boards and panels
        3) “Chairing” institutional boards and panels
        5) Any activity that requires participation without the participants intellectual input that comes from a place of profound introspection and quiet reflection.
        We are a dull and mindless mass of humans at this current epoc, preferring to abdicate our personal power and autonomy for a few “creature comforts”. Comfort of being “protected” through brute force and violence. Comfort of sharing ideologies…even though these ideologies may only apply to few. Comfort of being part of a group. Comfort of ownership. Comfort of self aggrandization and self adulation. Comfort of conformity.

        So fear not for me, rev.dave, I am completely autonomous where it actually counts. My mind is unfettered by such immature needs. I do not need to belong to a group nor pledge my “allegience” to any flag, person or idea, especially if these ideas would cause ANY Soul harm.

        The entire time my son was in Iraq I would admonish him to “put himself in their shoes”. I would remind him that these people had children, mothers, fathers, sisters and brothers just like him and wanted to live another day to love them and to be loved. I will quote my son here, “Mom, don’t worry. I have tea with them and tell them jokes. They like me and I like them.”

        My son may have been conscripted to harm other humans for a living but his heart and mind were not aligned with such degenerate endeavors. He had a need to protect ALL life and for this he gave his. I think there are many young men and women out there with the same kind of heart and mind…..they are the future.

        We have been conscripted into mental slavery and it is in this state that we are led to do harm to each other. The mind is the FIRST bastion of protection, rev.dave, and it is here those perverted souls have access to your heart, and lastly, your soul. Fortify your mind and no one can enlist you.
        I hope that your fears are assuaged.

    4. actually one of the first things the bOLSHEVICS DID WAS THROW OUT THE CZAR’S RESTRICTIONS ON private gun ownership and declade “all workers should be armed”

      try not getting your history off youtube

      1. THANK GOD-someone has got rid of the ‘they are after our guns’ fear mongering.

        Boys will be boys when the janitor is out:

        Colonel Ross Dedrickson: US Air Force/Atomic Energy Commission (ret.):

        “After retiring from the Air Force I joined the Boeing company and was responsible for accounting for all of the nuclear fleet of Minuteman missiles.
        In this incident they actually photographed the UFO following the missile as it climbed into space and, shining a beam on it, neutralized the missile.

        I also learned of a number of incidents which happened, a couple of nuclear weapons sent into space were destroyed by the extraterrestrials.
        Our government sent a nuclear weapon for explosion on the moon’s surface[And] the ETs destroyed the weapon as it went toward the moon.

        [Apparently] the idea of any explosion in space by any Earth government was not acceptable to the extraterrestrials, and that has been demonstrated over and over.”

        Professor Robert Jacobs: Lt. USAF 1369th Photo Squadron: “…we were testing ballistic missiles that were to deliver nuclear weapons on target…my duty [was] to supervise the instrumentation photography of every missile that went down in that western test range…and into the frame came something else.

        It flew into the frame and shot a beam of light at the warhead.

        Now, remember, all this stuff was flying at several thousand miles an hour, so this thing fires a beam of light at the warhead, hits it, …. The warhead tumbles out of space.

        The object, the points of light that we saw, the warhead and so forth, were traveling through subspace about sixty miles straight up, and they were going somewhere in the neighborhood of eleven to fourteen thousand miles an hour, when this thing caught up to them, flew in, flew around them, and flew back out.”

        WE may either affirm the above with rev dave–

        ‘Without God, without religion, scientific secularism can never co-ordinate its forces, harmonize its divergent and rivalrous interests, races, and nationalisms.’

        or we can note independently– that the enemy– are witless.

      2. In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

        In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. By 1987 that figure had risen to 61,911,000.

        China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952 10,076,000 political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated in Kuomintang China, and by 1987 another 35,236,000 exterminations were carried out under the Communists.

        “There is no doubt in my mind that millions of lives could have been saved if the people were not ‘brainwashed’ about gun ownership and had been well armed. Hitler’s thugs and goons were not very brave when con-fronted by a gun. Gun haters always want to forget the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, which is a perfect example of how a ragtag, half starved group of Jews took up 10 handguns and made asses out of the Nazis.”
        – Theodore Haas,
        survivor of Dachau
        Germany established gun control1 in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

        Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, without the means to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

        Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979 under General Idi Amin Dada, 300,000 Christians and political rivals of Amin2, unable to defend them­selves, were rounded up and exterminated.

        Cambodia established gun control in 1956. Between 1975 and 19793, 2,035,000 “educated” people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

        In a March 1976 coup in Argentina, a military junta seized power and went on a campaign to wipe out left-wing terrorism with terror far worse than the one they were combating. For seven years thousands of people, most of them dissidents and innocent civilians unconnected with terrorism, were arrested and then vanished without a trace, the Argentinian service chief’s version of Hitler’s Nacht und Nebel directive. After democracy was restored in 1983, a national commission was appointed to investigate the fate of “los desaparecidos.” That report revealed the systematic abductions of men women and children and the methodic use of torture and murder. Human rights groups say up to 30,000 people4 were killed or “disappeared” as the military waged its campaign against a disarmed citizenry.

        First we will kill all the subversives, then we will kill their col­lab­orators, then their sympathizers, then those who remain in­different and finally the in­decisive.
        – General Iberico Saint Jean,
        Controller of Buenos Aires
        The United Nations imposed gun control after civil war broke out in Bosnia-Herzegovina in 1992. Although the town of Srebrenica was a UN-designated “safe area,” in July of 1995 more than 7,000 unarmed Muslim men and boys were murdered by Serb forces as the UN forces in the town proved unable or unwilling to help its Muslim population.

        Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: at least 56 million5… that we know about. The places are all too familiar: Stalin’s Russia, Nazi Germany, Communist China, Uganda, Rwanda, Guatemala, Cambodia, Armenia, The Sudan, Bosnia and many more.
        Even in the new Millennium…
        In April 2000, toward the end of Sierra Leone’s 11-year civil war in which the United Nations convinced civilians to surrender their private weapon, those citizens ended up defenseless when 500 UNAMSIL peacekeepers in the east, unable to protect even themselves, were taken hostage by rebels moving on the capital of Freetown.

        And back in Uganda, extreme brutality and death continue today due to the government’s continued attempts at “forceful disarmament6” of the civilian populace, primarily Karamojong tribespeople.

        Additionally, in 2006 the genocide of unarmed victims in Darfur is unfathomably bad, more than two million people, yet no one has acted to stop it. The United Nations has failed to issue any meaningful sanctions against the openly racist Islamist dictatorship in Khartoum perpetrating it, or to even call it a genocide.

        David B. Kopel, Paul Gallant and Joanne D. Eisen, writing in the Notre Dame Law Review (Volume 81, Number 4), note that that national gun-control statutes7 for the Darfur victims effectively prevent self defense.

        So the next time someone talks in favor of gun control, ask them “Who do you want to round up and exterminate?”

        Something to think about as the Liberal media attempts to demonize firearms and gun owners in what amounts to an unending propaganda blitz. They are sympathetic to the politicians who seek to blame crime on “the easy availability of guns” and “illegal guns” through evil devices like “the gun show loophole.”

        At one point gun confiscation in this country was unthinkable, yet we saw it occur quite openly in 1991 in New York City, enabled solely due to a registration scheme put into place in 1967 when Mayor John V. Lindsay signed a long gun registration law which was later used as a confiscation list.

      3. MOSCOW, July 31 (RIA Novosti, Alexey Eremenko)

        In December 1917, weeks after coming to power, the Bolsheviks launched a drive to confiscate all firearms from the hands of the Russian populace. They never gave them back.
        Old habits die hard, and Russia’s restrictive gun legislation was never seriously softened over the past 100 years, despite regular calls to the purpose, the latest of which came last week from a pro-Kremlin senator.
        Those who oppose firearms are wary of the temperamental populace, predicting shooting rampages and an increase in murder rates.
        But some skeptics claim the real reason the Kremlin is not allowing the public to own firearms is fear that armed citizens will turn their guns on the country’s notoriously corrupt bureaucrats.
        “They’ll just start killing off officials,” said Mikhail Pashkin, head of the Moscow Police Labor Union.
        Human losses from grassroots purges could potentially stand at several millions, too much for the demographically challenged Russia, Pashkin predicted in a bout of a policeman’s deadpan black humor. Some 14,000 murders and attempted murders were committed in Russia in 2011, according to the Interior Ministry.
        Smile and Carry a Handgun
        The discussion on gun control in Russia was revived after Senator Alexander Torshin of the ruling United Russia party proposed last week to legalize selling handguns to citizens.
        In his report to the Federation Council, the upper chamber of the federal legislature, Torshin cited the example of the former Soviet Republic of Moldova, where after handguns became freely available for purchase in 1995, murder rates dropped by 20 percent.
        There are six million guns already in private hands in Russia, Torshin said. But most of them are hunting guns not made to be concealed and therefore not a handy means of self-defense, he said.
        Handguns “will make our society better,” Torshin said last week, media reported. “Look at America, everyone’s smiling there.”
        Torshin called for a referendum on the proposal, but the Kremlin was fast to put a damper on his pitch.
        “[The proposal] was not discussed and is only being worked out at the lower level, and the question is not on the agenda now,” Izvestia quoted presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov as saying last week.
        The proposal stood little chance anyway: the most recent poll, held last year by the independent Levada Center pollster, showed that 80 percent oppose the free sale of firearms, while only 13 percent support it and six percent are undecided. The survey covered 1,600 respondents nationwide and had a margin of error of 3.4 percentage points.
        Torshin’s proposal likely stems from gun industry lobbyists looking to tap a lucrative market with the help of legislators, said Alexei Mukhin of the Center for Political Information think-tank.
        There are almost 11 million prospective buyers who can afford firearms, which could create an industry worth 1 trillion rubles ($31 billion) in five years, Torshin said in his report.
        ‘Tyrannical State’
        When the Second Amendment granted Americans the right to bear arms back in 1791, it was so they could protect themselves from the “tyranny in government,” not highway robbers, according to one of its authors, Thomas Jefferson.
        No opposition activists in Russia have been bold enough to come out and claim that they need guns to keep the much-lambasted regime of President Vladimir Putin in check, not even after the Kremlin intensified a crackdown on political opposition in recent months, following a string of mass protests in Moscow that ended in riots on Bolotnaya Square in May. The police searched the homes of opposition leaders and charged, seemingly at random, a dozen riot participants.
        However, many anti-Putin champions advocate lax gun rules, including famous whistleblowing lawyer Alexei Navalny, the Kremlin’s number one political enemy who campaigned for handguns for citizens as early as 2007.
        “I used to advocate strict gun control, but I’m changing my mind now,” said Gennady Gudkov, a State Duma deputy with the oppositional Just Russia Party and a former KGB colonel.
        “I guess this way, the government will finally be forced to develop some respect for its citizens,” said Gudkov, a co-organizer of the recent mass protests.
        “I believe legislators think it’d be a shame if somebody else besides them had weapons,” agreed Rafail Ruditsky, who sits on the federal council of the Civil Arms Union, a pro-gun public group that helped create Torshin’s report.
        A recent spell of Kremlin-backed legislation has vested the state with additional powers to curb most forms of grassroots activity, including non-governmental organizations, unsanctioned public gatherings and the Internet, which has replaced kitchens as the primary venue for criticizing the government. Radical legalization moves, such as free firearm sales, are unfeasible in this political environment, experts said.
        In any case, both Ruditsky and Gudkov insisted that handguns are only needed to let private citizens protect themselves from criminals – even though crime rates have been decreasing since 2007, according to the Interior Ministry.
        Mukhin of the Center for Political Information also denied that gun restrictions are political, calling them “plain common sense.”
        The “tyrannical government” of the Second Amendment referred to Britain, a foreign power that threatened the very existence of the newborn American state – something that Russia is obviously in no danger of, Mukhin said.
        At the same time, the country runs a risk of destroying public peace by making handguns accessible to millions of emotionally unstable Russians with no gun culture and many issues waiting to burst, he said.

    5. Send this comment or others to Mr. Clark at the Newtown Bee and tell him how tragic it is that his newspaper bullies those people who just want their questions answered and that he, himself, should want answers as well.

  3. I notice the word “prosecuted” was mispelled on the sign. Certainly they are not detail-oriented as in their initial reports given to the mockingbird media.

    1. Good SPOT, PREPPER! The signs have multiple spelling mistakes “NO ENTRY BEYOND THIS POINT violators will be prosecuited to the full extent of the law” AND the other sign says, “ELECTRONIC SURVELLANCE EQUIPMENT IN USE” and the next sign is worse “NO ENTRY BEYOND THIS POINT violators will be PROSUCETED to the full extent of the law” I would not have noticed if you hadn’t pointed it out. It’s kind of addctive, like playing “Where’s Waldo?” except it is “Where’s the inconsistency, blunder, mistake, deception &/or crime?” The name of the one business, Shh…co sounds like its the “hush ’em up” headquarters.

      1. Angela, if you zoom in more closely on the photo showing the two signs you’ll see that the words “surveillance” and “prosecuted” are spelled correctly. The other photo does show that the word prosecuted was spelled incorrectly. It seems like just about every town I’ve ever been through has signage errors. Big deal. I wouldn’t attach even a breath of a cover-up to signage errors, lest there be cover-ups going on in just about every town in America.

  4. I am really surprised that there are not more people like you wanting to take a physical look into Newtown (and maybe there are). I know if I lived near there I sure would want to. And to reply to Benjamin Freedman above, I would like to know the answer to that as well. We still do not know if there really was a person who lied about their identity (and who this person was), if the reporter just made the whole thing up, or if there actually was a quote from Mrs. Hochsprung who later found out she herself was killed and she just did not realize she was still breathing.

  5. In any genuine murder investigation, the Newtown Bee staff member who took the Dawn Hochsprung statement would be deposed. All the more so in considering Lt. Vance’s stern warning that all such people would be federally prosecuted, and this interview may represent the first recorded instance of intentional fraud in the Sandy Hook case.

    And if it wasn’t fraud, things are even worse.

    1. Thank you Terri for putting this clip on, I now know what blue screen or green screen is. I watched this on TV and said to my husband. where are they standing- was it outside a church or some ones home ? It looked like evening time and I was thinking she must be cold out there, but she looked warm.. I said..’ something odd about this interview’.. what has CNN got to say about this?

  6. I think it is important to grieve with the town over this tragedy from afar. As much as I would not want outsiders in my time of grief that is probably immeasurably more with the township.

    I have listened and read a great deal on Sandy Hook. I believe it is time to accept the official representation for what it is and move on.

    1. Even when the OFFICIAL representation is a lie? Frankly tg if this were my kid that is dead I would never just except the OFFICIAL representation , I would haunt those responsible even after my death . Why ? Well heres why becuse those RESPONSIBLE could easly do this AGAIN.

      1. There is no official report- I checked with the State Police Department. Not even a pre-lim one . I hope ppl call them and Newtown Bee every day because they will eventually reach a breaking point.

    2. Lol… Tg, why do I immediately get this image of an operative sitting at his desk in some undisclosed location passively dissuading public inquiry and speculation? “…move along now, there’s nothing to see here.”

      1. tg this is not a game of cards although you may think so… careful gambeling can consume you.

      2. Mac – tg calmly and matter-of-factly stated his opinion. Maybe the reason why you “immediately get this image of an operative sitting at his desk in some undisclosed location….” is because you’re overly and unduly suspicious.

        1. No amount of poo-pooing can change the known inconsistencies of this event – no video, no pictures, no bodies, grinning ‘parents’, no use of assualt weapon et etc

  7. Im fed up with OFFICIAL STORIES that end up politcal agenda and result in dead children and adults that are completely innocent ! Those that doubt we have been delt a pack of lies look into the eyes of those that rely on you and tell them you believe the OFFICIAL representation and pray they are not the next to die for it….

  8. Thank you for your efforts to provide a first hand account of what is going on in Newtown since things have settled down. Your photos and detailed reporting are outstanding! The school building is much older than I had imagined. Like the asbestos problem in the WTC Towers, I wonder if the school had issues that demolition could resolve while at the same time providing an opportunity to pull off a psyops. I’m just speculating, of course. Anyhow, again, great work by you and your partner!

  9. How would the terrified kids pass unnoticed by the firehouse which was packed with cars, emergency vehicles and authorities only to end up on Rosen’s lawn? All of my friends in Connecticut says that Newtown is a known Satanic hub on the East coast.

    1. I was wondering the exact same thing. They indeed would have had to pass the firehouse and Mr. Rosen said that the school bus driver drove them. So they didn’t walk past and this begs the question how the school bus could have driven down the street at all with all the emergency personnel arriving. Also, why in the world would they pass the pass the fire house and go to Mr. Rosen’s instead?

      1. Reply to Scott DeLarm: They ran out “past the shooter in the doorway” while he was still shooting. (if you believe that) Consequently there would not yet have been any emergency vehicles. Also I think Mr. Rosen only said the bus driver was with them, not that he drove them. Altho the bus driver was described as “a man” and “he” by Mr. Rosen before Rosen finally settles on the bus driver is a woman. I read a reference on the internet to his wife (Pauline I think) holding an important political job. Does anybody know the details of this?

  10. The red handprint logo an the name Shh is Hair Salon is bizarre given the circumstances. Did you know the previous salon owners were pushed out for no good reason a few years ago and given the new name?
    The Mason signs are quite prominent. That’s weird too. The place seems Twilight Zone-y .

    1. SantaBarbaraDianne: Here’s a reader comment I had saved from elsewhere which mirrors your Twilight Zone-y feeling (which I agree!):

      Dave wrote 12/23/12:
      “In Russia, during the cold war, whole towns were constructed and filled with trainees and actors to prepare Russian moles for integration into American society. When I look at the Newtown “massacre” it kind of reminds me of those Russian towns.”

  11. I am so done with MSM. I always believed everything they reported. What a fool I have been. Always thinking the 9/11 truthers were nut jobs. I apoligize to all of them, and now question the story myself after hearing the lies and misinformation of Sandy Hook. God help us all.

    1. Standing ovation for Elizabeth! You made it out of the Matrix! We are happy you have joined us. 🙂
      P.S. Everyone has been a fool in one way or another so we are all in good company. I think that the only thing that seperates the foolish from the fools is the ability to see that they are being fooled….if that makes any sense. You are the first person I have ever heard admit to such a state and can only applaud you for your honesty and courage.

      1. Thank you Jamie. It only took 53 years!! Now I have to work on my 2 adult children, and the rest of my family. I raised them to respect our elected officials and go with the flow. When they were younger they asked me about the 9/11 truthers, I told them not to listen to crazy people in this world. Big Big mistake.

      2. Ah, we come from the same generation. I, too, taught my sons the same and it cost one of them his life. I pay for my ignorance every second of every day….so, now, does my granddaughter. In all honesty I KNEW something was corrupt about our world but I kept getting a different spin from family and friends. They called me names like, “Conspiracy Nut” or “Crazy” or just laughed at me. That is pressure I easily buckle under….unfortuantely. No one wants to be the “crazy” one,but, I embrace my current status as totally appropriate for the circumstances surrounding me…and everyone else. As J. Krishnamurthi said, “It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.” I concur.

        I do hope that you have a very solid relationship with your children and that they trust you implicitly for this will be easier for them to accept. It was not the case for myself. My children and I were seperated for a period of 4 years through divorce which caused a deep fracture that is not easily mended.
        Speaking of ‘divorce’ I want to alert all Tracy blog readers that children become wards of the state after a divorce…ireegardless of who is granted custody. My therapist told me this last year and I was astounded to know this as it is a well guarded secret in “mental health” circles. This means that the ‘state’ has more rights over the child than the parents. If this alone does NOT make the blood boil of every parent I do not know what would. Perhaps everyone knows this already?

        I highly recommend a very good book that I gave to my son to read five years ago…and it helped. The book is called, ‘The Silver Cord; Lifeline to the Unobstructed’ by Martha Barham and James Greene.

      3. I made it out of the Matrix soon after the economic crisis, when I began understanding that the federal government is moving toward a totalitarian regime. I started trying to connect all the dots, and I discovered that what is emerging is not a pretty picture, but a grotesque nightmare. I’m a baby boomer, who is grieving the loss of our republic. I have succeeded in convincing my two youngest children about the need to prepare for what’s coming. I’m still working with convincing my two oldest chldren as well.

      4. To Kathy: It is worse than you imagine. They know that Earth ( as are all planets in our Solar System ) is experiencing massive change and have planned for this for decades. We are being intentionally misled.

      1. Those are “blood sacrifices” leading up to the highest (non-)”holy” day of the occult calendar, May 1st, known as Beltaine; aka “Communism Day.” Those dates are approx. 11-13 days prior to May 1st.

        Hitler died in the same timeframe, April 30, 1945; & Osama bin Laden May 2nd (supposedly, but that’s a sham for sure).

      2. “April is the Cruelest Month”. TS Elliot got it right. Don’t forget about the BP “spill” on April 20, 2010

    2. reply to Elizabeth: For news, presstv (English-speaking Iranian tv) on the internet. For more in-depth extremely responsible coverage Don’t blame yourself. You can’t know anything before you know it. For indepth understanding of why these conspiracies are happening, anything by William Engdahl, esp “A Century of War” or “Full Spectrum Dominance”. He’s extremely well-documented, has some video interviews on the web, too.

      1. TPR, did you see the movie ‘Knowing’? Please watch it and tell me what you think. It appears to give clues to the British Petroleum “event”…before it happened. There are clues everywhere as to what they intend to do…we are just too busy trying to survive to notice them.

  12. God knows what happened at Sandy Hook, Fast and Furious and Benghazi! We will know in our own time. I do not trust in man anymore. I trust in God. He is the only influence in my life who has not lead me astray!

    1. I feel the same as you. I bless the broken roads since it only brought me closer to God. I never trusted the government 100%, but now I have zero trust. I am not afraid, but feel afraid for my children. Seems like everything is happening so quickly with the agenda that they are putting into place for the future of this country. I feel sick.

      1. Me too elizabeth but , Im passed sick . I guess I feel scorned and you know what that means … when us ladies are scorned the Devil says ” Oh shit ..”

      1. TPR, ‘Luce’ means ‘light’ and ‘Lucifer’ means ‘Lightbearer’.If people only understood the meaning of words. EVERYTHING is inverted on this planet! EVERYTHING.

    2. Amen. Psalms 146:3-4:

      “Put not your trust in princes,        
      nor in the son of man,
      in whom there is no help.
      His breath goeth forth,        
      he returneth to his earth;
      in that very day his thoughts perish.”

  13. ” The sergeant told me that this was the confusion of the day and that there were not two individuals.”

    I wonder then, how they explain the helicopter taken footage of two guys in dark clothing running into the woods from the back of the school and being essentially tackled by the police? And if you look carefully at that footage, there’s another body moving in the woods up at about 10:30 position at the far left. That too seems to move like a man, and also appears to be in dark clothing.

    I suppose the explanation ‘to come’ for them all is ‘tactical responders from different units’, right? HA!

    1. Of course we can know what really happened. All that we have to do is TRUST what our eyes see, our ears hear and our hearts know to be true! This is why they get away with defining our ‘reality’. Take it back from them!

      1. Precisely, Jamie – the biggest wind-up for me used to be when people said (about anything) “… oh, it;s a mystery …” – well, as you point out, everything is only a mystery because we don’t YET know how it’s done. This “mystery” caveat is such a carte blanche to give up trying.
        Think of your children.
        “Take it back from them”.

      2. Hello, Andrew. People believe circumstances to be “mysterious” because they lack the fundamental ability to be self responsible. Church and State have done a wonderful job of creating dependents. God the Father, Big Brother, Pope, Cardinal, Reverend, Pastor, Deacon, etc, etc. There is always someone sitting in a position of power that somehow causes an auto-reaction of perpetual genuflecting by those under this power structure.
        I have a very difficult time bowing before something I have no respect for.

        Study is the remedy for “mystery”. 🙂

  14. Immediately post haste the 9/11 hoax, Bush summarily trashed the precept of habeas corpus. Now, in similar textbook fashion, and immediately post haste the Sandy Hoax, the so-called “PTB”, after framing and convicting an entirely hypothetical perpetrator in absentia, now appear to have totally trashed the principle of CORPUS DELICTI. Let me repeat that. CORPUS DELICTI. Anybody out there have any idea what THAT means? Didn’t think so. Please allow me to look it up for you-
    From here on out, before we attempt to establish any further so-called “facts” in this “worst case scenario”, can we, first and foremost of all, “establish the FACT of a CRIME having been ACTUALLY COMMITTED?………..didn’t think so.

      1. Drill gone live! “Media hoax”. That’s the closest explanation. There are certainly many other facets to this worth examining but, that’s how they did it. They did the same in Aurora. Garbled the communications and interspersed the drill with the operation. Totally contrived.

  15. 9/11 drills were going on where the scienero was that planes would be flown into buildings , 14/12 drills in a town not from Newtown with school shootings being main theme. Now here is a new one that concerns me , set for Febuary 7, 2013 :The New Madrid Earthquake faultline drill…

    1. Oh no, Terri Streeter! Not New Madrid! That supposedly will be the giant CRACK that splits the country down the verticle-middle into two “continents” (so to speak) with massive flooding down the middle & on each coast.

      I didn’t really think it was time yet for this “destruction of the Phoenix” (USA) so their “New Atlantis” can arise from the ashes.

      But if they are now having “New Madrid Drills”… not a good sign… unless their giant New Madrid EQ will simply be a “made for TV movie” event…

  16. Based on the repeated ‘confluence’ of drills and events of the same nature, this is really bad news.

  17. Thank you for doing this! I have spent hours and hours pouring over all of what has been presented on SH and back to this blog again and again. My husband I keep talking about how it would be helpful to go visit Newtown and see for ourselves…not that that would neccesarily illuminate much. I commend people willing to spend the time and money to do this. I am awake now and trying to play catch up to understand everything that is going on that I have blissfully ignored most of my life.

    1. Ya, Sandy Hook really got my attention because of the similarities to the Aurora “Batman Shootings” which was nearby, and suspect since I’ve crossed paths with James Holmes. It’s taken up too much of my time, but it’s shoved in my face so I feel it needs to be addressed.

  18. Some observations.

    When this visiting couple questioned the chaplain if she had seen any children whom had been impacted…why wouldn’t she answer? That is just evidence of even more suspicious secrecy surrounding this event.

    About that handwritten sign that says, “there is no foot so tiny that it can’t leave an imprint on this world.” Too bad they don’t feel the same way about the millions of tiny feet who have been aborted in the womb.

    I ask. Is such a sign as the “foot so tiny” one the first (or second, or third, or fourth) thought that one would genuinely have and desire to display after such a tragedy as this? Seems quite strange to me.

    The “we’re with you Newtown” sign from “your friends in Tucson, Arizona” seems very strange! “We’re with you” sounds more like a cheer sign one would read at a sporting event – not after a tragedy where 26 were murdered!

    The second “no entry beyond this point” sign misspelled “prosecuted.” Who made that blunder?

    When a local is asked about “Satanic activity” and replies “I could believe that,” then we know that it isn’t just a conspiracy theory to think that enormous evil surrounds this town and ultimately, this entire scenario.

    Masonry has it’s own kind of “magic and spells” which are of the occult; which is of the devil, as well.

    What is with the “Shh…co.” imagery with the heart inside the hand? Is that a coded message for the residents to keep their mouths shut or what?

    The newspaper lady admitted that she knew of “conspiracy theories floating out there.” Isn’t it strange that she would send people to It’s a far left liberal website that can easily say what it wants instead of seeking the truth in any matter.

    The female sergeant is just regurgitating the same old lines.

    Why weren’t there any photos of the inside of the school released? There were after Columbine.

    Why the rush to demolish the school? Hide the evidence (or lack thereof) if, in fact, a hoax was perpetrated??

    All of this is very eerie…and creepy…to say the least!

    P.S. Were there any churches involved in the memorial site placements after this tragedy? Besides what appears to be one back yard memorial with small crosses, everything else seems too “secular” in the aftermath of this terrible event.

    Also, a chaplain could be a person of any belief system and is not the same thing as a pastor, priest, or rabbi.

    1. It was the Newtown Bee editor that referred me to Snopes to get specifics on his paper’s reporting. I was baffled.

    2. Let’s just condemn the whole town to hell! Those bastards in Newtown
      with their devil worshipping and… signage errors and… hair salons masquerading as… hair salons. And what’s with those bastards in Tucson, Arizona with their “we’re with you” message? How could anybody mistake this for a consolatory message of comfort? I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard the chant “we’re with you” at sporting events! This whole thing just stinks to high heaven. Not that I’m prejudging anything, though. Just sayin’!

  19. For the many of us who know there are too many unanswered questions regarding this event, thank-you for this and your REAL attempts at investigative journalism. That’s how it’s done, Anderson Cooper. Maybe you should take lessons. Would you get the same reception as this couple did or would you be welcomed and given the same line of propaganda that you were previously?

    Things that make you go hmmmmm…..

  20. Wow! Great job going in as a citizen and asking questions. It’s more than the journalists are doing. I mean even if you aren’t suspicious of the facts, what about a simple follow up story? It’s amazing there is no official report. WTH?

    1. Lorraine, the CT State Police have not released the results of their investigation as yet, ergo no report. I have two problems with that:
      1) they may take so long that it won’t matter, or will be forgotten by everyone except those who question event stories, and
      2) meanwhile our state has some 50 or so pieces of onerous legislation proposed and being aggressively pushed, based on nothing more than the story tragedy but not on a single ‘fact’ that we are sure can be substantiated by the investigators – so basically all on pipe dreams.

  21. I still do not entirely know enough to make a determination of whether or not this was a false-flag, as 911 and OKC, the Lavon Affair, USS Liberty, London’s 7//7, and so many, many others were, but I have to commend you for going there and doing your part to give more information than any of us had before that.

    Thank you.


  22. Well, I’m surprised that the people who visited Newtown got as much as they did. I didn’t think that they would have been able to get close enough to the school to get pictures, and I didn’t think that the Bee and the police would even engage a conversation with them. Regardless, it seems like they were just given the run-around.

    And I’m curious about Rosen’s house… Who was the lady who wouldn’t open the door, and did she peek out of the blinds or something? Is that how they knew that a lady was there in the first place?

    And also, very interesting about the large satanic community, I wasn’t aware of that.

    1. Mr. Rosen’s house has a laneway that you must walk up to get to the walk to the house. The porch is enclosed with see through mesh. I could see into the kitchen through the back door. I knocked on the screen door and could see an older woman in the kitchen. She waved me off with her hand without opening the door.

    2. Reply to Greg: Re: Satanic connections. Someone posted a screenshot of an invitation to the Church of Satan & the P.O. for reply was Newtown, CT. The poster’s comments were that he was researching Church of
      Satan & came across the fact that it’s the East Coast head of the church. (W Cst is Frisco).
      Also there have been postings of 4 different people making the hand-sign of Satan. Two are in the Parker family photo, the one used on fb & avail many times on the internet. The youngest daughter is hiding her 2d & 3d fingers by sucking them. However, her palm is facing forward so that it’s a satanic salute. A very unsatisfactory way to suck her fingers, since w the hand in this position the fingers push against the teeth. The little girl on Daddy’s other knee is also making the hand sign, tho less obviously.
      Some people have said it’s weird that she seems to have no legs. Presumably she’s straddling Dad’s leg, like the younger girl, but I don’t know why this isn’t visible.

  23. Sounds like the town of Stepford………good appearance on the surface but below the surface is something quite sinister. I noticed the “No Trespassing” sign that spelled prosecuted as “prosuceted”…..disgusting people that perpetrated this incident for their own ends.

    1. Funny you should mention Stepford. A town adjacent to Newtown, Redding, is where the Stepford Wives was filmed. (I grew up in a town adjacent to both of these towns, and know the area well.)

      CT is a beautiful, very wealthy, but very strange state, home to many of the world’s largest corporate headquarters, and very much at the nexus of the world-industrial-corporate elite. Stepford was a pretty accurate depiction of many of the people I grew around, especially after the GE world corporate headquarters was built down the road from us.

      1. woops, meant “military-industrial-financial” elite… I’m usually good at proof-reading myself… interesting slip, though

      2. Intriguing observation.Two decades ago, as an undergrad at NYU, I had a circle of friends from Redding CT. Talk about Stepfordesque families! Clearly my friends from Redding struggled to break away from their parents mindset. They thought getting lost in the intense bustle of NYC would in some way assuage the alienating pain they suffered from their non-communicative, well-to -do trust-fund families. I remember a few weekend trips to the area. At the time, the atmosphere and mood felt heavy and sad, even in summer. To your point of the corporate elite-yes, there is /was a heavy presence, and was pretty clear that the children of execs who didn’t fit the mold either fell off the radar or worse.
        Years later, I learned of two of these friend’s tragic deaths by suicide . The families never talked about it and seemed weirdly stoic after all of those years.
        Funny how Adam Lanza (son of a corporate exec) just fell of the radar too. The difference is that back in the late eighties, it was easy to just wander off and leave a footprint (before the digital age). Now, if someone (i.e. Adam Lanza) falls of the grid for 2 years (not even speaking to the brother or father) well, then, that is extremely disturbing, especially for a 20 year old who was supposedly all over IT stuff and programming.

        1. The name Adam is significant. It means the original man put here by god in the garden, in the satanic ritual world once Adam is dead ritualistically it signifies the fall of Gods man. So if Adam is Dead then so are offspring and ancestors. The leaders of this world are worshipers of Moloch. The owl painting Anderson cooper showed is a symbol to worshipers! Moloch is worshiped by world leaders at the bohemian Grove even Obama wears a white hood and swears allegiance to a large owl. ..As a god worshipped by the Phoenicians and Canaanites, Moloch had associations with a particular kind of propitiatory child sacrifice by parents. Moloch figures in the Book of Deuteronomy and in the Book of Leviticus as a form of idolatry (Leviticus 18:21: “And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Moloch”). In the Hebrew Bible, Gehenna was a valley by Jerusalem, where apostate Israelites and followers of various Baalim and Caananite gods, including Moloch, sacrificed their children by fire (2 Chr. 28:3, 33:6; Jer. 7:31, 19:2–6).

          Moloch has been used figuratively in English literature from John Milton’s Paradise Lost (1667) to Allen Ginsberg’s “Howl” (1955), to refer to a person or thing demanding or requiring a very costly sacrifice. The secret societies want to sacrifice everyone other than just enough to serve them as they now have scientific technologies that can prolong life well over 130 years. This transhumanist secret society is in the most highest if places in banking oil and the Vatican. The club of Rome Website
          The Club of Rome is a global think tank that deals with a variety of international political issues. Founded in 1968 at Accademia dei Lincei in Rome, Italy, the CoR describes itself as “a group of world citizens, sharing a common concern for the future of humanity.” It consists of current and former Heads of State, UN bureaucrats, high-level politicians and government officials, diplomats, scientists, economists, and business leaders from around the globe. It raised considerable public attention in 1972 with its report The Limits to Growth. The club states that its mission is “to act as a global catalyst for change through the identification and analysis of the crucial problems facing humanity and the communication of such problems to the most important public and private decision makers July 2008, the organization has its headquarters in Winterthur, Switzerland. This club and its members are part of a large design to reduce the worlds population through the FAO which allows toxins back into your food from all over the world! You see in the minds of these demented rich guys we poor people are the problem! Why do you think the UN did not even sanction areas or leaders killing people in Darfur? Somewhere everyday people are bing slaughtered. Do you actually think our government cares at all? No they not only do not care they are in on the grand design to destroy the very fabric of our lives. Symbolism is the language of secret societies! We must stop them now. If we don’t we are all dead men. They are working very hard to get gun control. If they get it – then run for your lives!

        2. Yeah, and M Baker keeps on blasting us, Truth Seeker (did you see what he just posted?). I’m with you, bro. I have just posted a video by a guy who explains what the real purpose of Sandy Hook was. The video was good, but the problem is that the guy sounds quite ungodly towards the 17-18 min. mark, displaying his complete unbelief in the Bible, blaming Zionists for the world’s woes, etc. In spite of his humanistic approach, he makes a major point during the first 17-18 min. of the video. Check it out when you have a minute. God bless you, bro!

      3. I am Spartacus, you are very observant! Your description of the locale is spot-on.

        I know those families well. Mine was not far from that. I’ve spent my entire life seeking a way out of “the alienating pain … suffered from their non-communicative, well-to -do trust-fund families”. I was friends with kids who had Stepford-wive moms and creepy executive dads. My best friend, it was said, killed himself playing russian roulette, in mysterious circumstances while under surveillance by government agencies.

        It is a very beautiful, but sinister area, “the atmosphere and mood felt heavy and sad, even in summer”, as you so eloquently put it, with the occasional flyover of some mysterious aircraft from the nearby Sikorski aircraft factory.

      4. Truth Seeker’s on the money about the owl picture waved by an always sinister-looking Anderson Cooper. What is passed off on many as an innocent drawing by a child is in fact, as has been said, an indicator of something very warped.
        It’s all about energy and its uses. This is a form of technology that is not discussed – called “magic” or “sorcery” it is easily ridiculed, but it’s simply all about using subtle mechanics to control the environment – and in this respect, “other people ” also are classified as part of “the environment”.
        The plutocrat psychos know about this technology, that it has real effects by creating certain ambient conditions that either increase or retard certain kinds of possible outcomes among a populace. It’s an aspect of mind/energy control – which is their favoured method of control, as it has been found to be the most effective.
        For me, a useful bottom line is that these people are bullies and, apart from all the detail, no-one wants a bully floating around being nasty.
        Their mindset, unfortunately, is still that of the feudal lord with life & death power over the ignorant/powerless unwashed.
        So the question is simple: how does one deal with bullies?

      5. In reply to Andrew: “How do we deal with bullies”?

        I think a better question would be, “How do we eradicate the bully mentality”? In order for a bully to manifest an environment, conducive to it’s creation, must exist. So this means that we have either created or supported an environment in which this kind of mentality can flourish.

        It is the ‘Asymmetrical Power System’, that Bev speaks of, that creates such an environment in order for bullies to manifest. It should be very evident by now. We have been at this for thousands of years and yet we keep ending up at the same place. Why? Lack of education. Lack of autonomy. I reiterate, Religion and Governance has created this condition of dependence. Time to grow up.
        If you want to get rid of the bully then you must work diligently to create an environment that does not allow them to manifest. Very simple solution to a very disturbing problem.

        1. It would appear to be “simple”, however, it’s not. Whilst I agree that conditions or “environment” is always key, as soon as any conditions give rise to manifestations, such manifestations are of differing densities and relative durabilities.
          The question of levels of materiality need to be addressed at this point – and solutions to problems need to be addressed at each of those relevant levels in a ‘level-appropriate’ manner.
          For instance – if someone receives a broken arm as a result of an attack by someone else who is angry as a result of an emotional upset, then the arm needs appropriate care, the attacker needs appropriate restraint exercised upon his person and the emotional upset/state needs to be appropriately sourced and adjusted.
          If not, three NEW sets of conditions wioth their own potential knock-on effects begin to come into play.
          “Dealing with bullies” is, it appears to me, where we are with this long-standing and long-planned assault. They have the power and the weapons and must assume also technology of which we have no idea – HAARP’s bad enough.
          They appear to be within cutting distance with a knife in their hand, so, as Bronco BIlly stated “When danger threatens, it’s always time to act.”
          Creating/changing environments/conditions does not exclude exerting physical restraint upon people intent on physical assault.

  24. Apparently you didn’t see or take their obvious hint that you were being annoying and very hurtful, and showed no respect towards those who only a month ago suffered through one of our country’s greatest tragedies. You absolutely had no business being there asking your hurtful questions in trying to build a ridiculous conspiracy theory. What you were basically telling those who you spoke with was that they were liars and didn’t suffer through what they know happened first hand and are still trying to recover from. Only very small and insignificant number of people believe there was a conspiracy. Actually from what you wrote it sounds as if the few people you spoke to were being very polite to you considering the disrespect you were showing them.

    You sound as if your full of hate and anger. Hopefully, someday after you have matured some more you’ll look back and see just how hurtful you were in these people.

    1. M Baker , no one was or is being hateful here . I think most people just want to understand what happend and what has been presented by media , Stated Trooper and the coroner as facts of the shooting do NOT add up . I have lost family , not in this shooting , many people have on another matter that our government has chose to ignore and says there is no problem , that has to do with criminals as well as people just looking for work crossing our USA borders. I have no problem with anyone asking questions and neither should the people of Newtown CT.

      1. Yeah, Mr. Baker, go find another place to troll. It will be pretty useless here. We are truth seekers, not sheeple. Happy trolling elsewhere!

      2. I wrote my comment hoping at least some of you would have the common decency and insight to finally recognize how outsiders coming into a community asking questions about a recent disaster might cause further hurt to those in the community. There is a time and place for everything, but now is not the time to be questioning those still hurting in a community from such a brutal attack. That time will come soon enough, but it will be when they say it’s time, not from someone who is trying to fabricate a conspiracy based on virtually no proven facts. As it is now, no one is giving the victims any thought or respect for what they went through and how this has effected their lives.

        If you looking for evidence why people seem to ignore what you write and cast doubt towards it authenticity, this is a great case to step back from and look what your readers may thinking when they read what you wrote.

        1. This revolutionary blog is dedicated to overcoming tyranny through truth and justice for identifying hoaxes portrayed in the corporate controlled media. This country and its founders created constitutional rights to free speech and the right to bear arms. This sandy hook hoax and its psycological effects is designed to strip us of our rights and leave us defenseless. 56 million people have been systematically murdered after gun control was implemented. If we allow shills like you to say a community is grieving when they are not grieving then we become part of the lie! The facts are no one knew Victoria Soto that name and image was captured on a video tape two years prior at a talent show. When Victoria stood name was called the girl that responded was none other that the girl now calling herself the sister. She took pictures smiling and laughing with Anderson Cooper and is on tape contradicting herself just like the sexton Greenberfs and Mr. Rosen a Screen Actors guild listed actor. These actors and thier contradictory stories and misidentified children taken from images in flicker rooms and misspelled signs and 100s of basic unanswred questions and multiple misleading accounts by police and the admission of the medical examiner Wayne Carver that he is AFRAID to get involved with this obvious hoax. Now there are many levels the goverment plays on. In some instances especially religious ones they could have sacrificed children. It’s all part of the secret society worship of the false god Moloch. The parents of those kids would need to be involved. Our Christian God warns us not to let any children be put though the fire of Moloch in the book of Leviticus. Our goverment and its secret societies have rituals and routines and needs the public to go along and not ask questions and do as they are told. We the people on this blog are not afraid to ask hard questions because without truth there can not be accountability. Without accountability then the FBI and CIA and other internal black operations team can get away with murder. They must first remove our guns then they will kill all political dissidents then the genocide ritual sacrifices will begin in your neighborhood under the biological contamination area signs. Since America is still asleep somewhat Anderson Cooper and others will not discuss the round ups and incarceration of us. FEMA camps which were built by goverment contracts without end and the plannings of mass genocide in the very books written and composed by people that Barack Obama put into power. The entire plan is to reduce world population but first under agenda 21 most of America will be returned to nature habitats and the ones that survive the mass genocide will live near rail way terminals and be the very poorest of docile slaves. Sounds far fetched but consider the fact that the US put Mao into office he he killed multiple millions upon millions as a test for what’s coming home in America then one can only assume the Sandy Hook hoax and one like it are simply baby steps to our own graves. We as a people must question these moves and strategically slow them down. Do you want to be a victim like the other 56 million people who did not question gun control ? Should we let the media lie to us over and over again? Think about this! If we do nothing they are going to kill us! Do you want to die? Is the future of children and the sacrifices of the past not our responsabilty of TODAY?

        2. Well said, Truth Seeker. M Baker is the one who should be ashamed of coming into a site like this to try and shame the people who are trying to get answers and read through the lies and deceit in the US government’s cover ups and false flags. He’d rather see us cross our arms and go right along like nice little sheep to the slaughter.

        3. M Baker, in the other post by Prof. Tracy, people like you were coming in here and telling us that instead of concocting conspiracy theory we should at least have the decency to go up to Netown and meet the real people who live there, and see that they do exist and that all of this was not fabricated. Now that someone like this couple finally had the guts to do as suggested, you say they should be ashamed of themselves. Shame on you for trying to undermine the people’s efforts to discern through the thick layers of government deceit, false flags and cover ups. What would you rather have us do? Behave like nice, little compliant slaves? Your charge is unfounded. Scott and his partner did not go knocking on grieving parents’ doors, and their investigation was conducted in a respectful manner.


        Since my critics below, or the moderator of this site has tried to silence me by no longer providing a “reply” button below each of my critics below, I’ll reply to your comments here as long as it’s not censored by the sites moderators. It’s interesting, those who call themselves “Constitutionalist”, are also the ones who try to silence those who challenge their beliefs. It’s also interesting that these “Constitutionalist” who fabricate conspiracies based on fact less and highly speculative claims, and on very shaky grounds, are also the ones who try to deny their doubters the right of free speech.

        I’ve read both comments from King’s Bride and Truth Seeker, but in none of the comments did they provide gave any proof or back up for what either one stated. In other words, none of what was written would be admitted into a State of Federal court. Why then should anyone believe a word from your comments. To claim the government is a tyranny without providing any proof will not get many people converted to your line of thinking, except for the gullible and those who want to believe what you’re stating simply because that is what they want to believe without having to see any proof .

        But it’s also your belief that it is acceptable to question those who are acutely suffering from this recent tragic event in order for you to gather evidence of what you want to believe is a hoax, without any proof what so ever that it is. That makes absolutely no sense except you want to feed your fantasy of a hoax that involved the killing of 20 children and 6 adults.

        It’s my belief of what you’re doing is a very sick and twisted fantasy that you’re willing to further hurt the parents and those in the community further. You’re no better than the Westboro Church members who picket outside the funerals of fallen patriots and think of themselves as “good Christians”. This now ends my commenting to people and trying to reason with them to help then see the terrific hurt they have inflicting on those who suffered through this horrific tragedy. Doing so is only wasting my time on doing what your conscience should already be telling you. Hopefully, sooner rather than later you’ll recognize the hurt you inflicted on others, and will find a way to repair the damage, but I seriously doubt it by examining the words and lack of logic I see here.

        1. You can only be writing here in the manner you do as a result of either a lack of historical research or as an agent provocateur.
          Either way, you have some work to do.

        2. “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.”
          Obama said and i quote; I believe in 2nd Amendment, but not war weapons on streets. (Oct 2012). (That tyranny.)
          Fast-and-Furious: no prosecutions for Mexican gun/drug snafu. (Jun 2012)
          Midwestern “bitter clingers” frustrated over broken promises. (Aug 2009)
          Opposed bill okaying illegal gun use in home invasions. (Aug 2008)
          Ok for states & cities to determine local gun laws. (Apr 2008)
          FactCheck: Yes, Obama endorsed Illinois handgun ban. (Apr 2008)
          April 2008: “Bittergate” labeled Obama elitist. (Apr 2008)
          Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok. (Feb 2008)
          Provide some common-sense enforcement on gun licensing. (Jan 2008)(no such thing)
          2000: cosponsored bill to limit purchases to 1 gun per month. (Oct 2007)
          Concealed carry OK for retired police officers. (Aug 2007)
          Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities. (Jul 2007)
          Keep guns out of inner cities–but also problem of morality. (Oct 2006)
          Bush erred in failing to renew assault weapons ban. (Oct 2004)
          Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions. (Jul 1998)
          Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005).

          Oh and by the way M baker if they get our guns your children could die as well! By Chris Oates

          The Gun grabbers would have you believe that if you submit to the registration of your firearms it would reduce crime. They tell you that if you register your guns, you could still use them for hunting and self-defense. History shows otherwise. It is a fact that every single nation that has required the registration of firearms has soon confiscated those firearms, leaving their citizens defenseless.

          In 1911 Turkey established gun control. Subsequently, from 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, deprived of the means to defend themselves, were rounded up and killed.

          In 1929 the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, approximately 20 million dissidents were arrested and executed.

          In 1938 Germany established gun control. From 1939 to 1945 over 13 million Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, mentally ill, union leaders, Catholics and others, unable to fire a shot in protest, were killed by the state.

          In 1935 China established gun control. Between 1948 and 1952, over 20 million dissidents were rounded up and murdered by the Communists.

          In 1956 Cambodia enshrined gun control. In just two years (1975-1977) over one million “educated” people (about 1/3 of the entire population!) were executed by the Reds.

          In 1964 Guatemala locked in gun control. From 1964 to 1981 over 100,000 Mayan Indians were rounded up and killed, unable to defend themselves.

          In 1970 the Ugandan dictator decreed gun control. During the next nine years over 300,000 Christians were murdered.

          Over 56 million people have died, unable to defend themselves, because of gun control in the last century alone.

          So much for keeping our guns if we register them. On the other hand, lenient gun laws mean less crime. In Switzerland, all males from the ages of 20 to 42 are required to have guns. The Swiss have almost no murders and a very low crime rate!

          Some people say that the police are our protection therefore, we don’t need guns. Here is where basic math comes into play. There are 271,933,702 people living in the United States. Currently, there are about 150,000 police officers on duty at any one time. This is on-duty police. This includes desk clerks, command sergeants, etc. – far fewer than 150,000 cops are cruising your neighborhood. Thus there is only one on-duty cop for every 1,813 citizens!

          Now I’m not trying to badmouth the police. I am sure that they may mean well, but there’s only so much they can do. There were 18,209 murder victims, 497,950 robbery victims, and 96,122 rape victims that the police could not help in 1997 alone.

          Maybe if the gun-control crowd would just leave us good folk alone we could all sleep better. US Caught in war crimes over and over again do you dispute that M baker ?
          It is collectively accepted that humans require laws to protect society because there will always be people who disregard the rights of others, and without standards that are generally accepted and followed, there would be perpetual chaos that would bring civilization crashing down. Some laws prohibiting murder, sexual predation toward children, and certain actions during wartime are universal and when successfully prosecuted, condemn the offender to societal scorn as well as incarceration. The stigma attached to individuals who have been convicted of a crime is a damning and lifelong curse that affects social interactions, families, and in many cases, the opportunity for finding gainful employment. For ex-president George W. Bush, finding gainful employment is not an issue, but as a convicted war criminal, he will forevermore share that designation with the likes of Adolf Hitler, Josef Mengele, and Osama bin Laden.(another questionable patsy)

          in Kuala Lumpur in the first ever conviction of its kind anywhere on Earth, Bush, former vice president Dick Cheney, former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, and five of their legal advisors were found guilty of war crimes for torture, cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment of prisoners who suffered at the hands of U.S. Soldiers and contractors in Afghanistan, Guantanamo Bay, and Iraq. The Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission convened a five-panel tribunal, and after a week-long trial delivered the unanimous guilty verdicts with full transcripts of witness statements, charges, and other materials being sent to the Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, the United Nations and the Security Council. The Commission is also requesting that the names of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gonzales, Yoo, Bybee, Addington, and Haynes be entered and added to the Commission’s Register of War Criminals for the public record.

          The Kuala Lumpur commission followed the format of the Nuremberg Charter, and Francis Boyle, a war crimes expert, professor of international law at the University of Illinois College of Law, and member of the prosecution team referenced the Nuremberg Charter’s rule that, “Leaders, organizers, instigators and accomplices participating in the formulation or execution of a common plan or conspiracy to commit war crimes are responsible for all acts performed by any person in execution of such a plan.” Boyle said “This is the first conviction of these people anywhere in the world,” and that “we tried three times to get Bush in Canada but were thwarted by the Canadian Government, then we scared Bush out of going to Switzerland.” Although there will be some who consider the convictions symbolic, Boyle, a human rights activist, is hopeful that Bush and his co-conspirators face similar trials elsewhere in the world because “countries have a duty to try war criminals” and that the United States is subject to international law and the Principles of the Nuremberg Charter. The lead prosecutor said “The tribunal was very careful to adhere scrupulously to the regulations drawn up by the Nuremberg courts and the International Criminal Courts.”

          The trial heard testimony from a British man held in Guantanamo Bay, an Iraqi woman tortured in Abu Ghraib prison, and three other witnesses who gave harrowing accounts of torture and inhumane treatment while being detained. However, the reality is the witnesses did not have to testify for the court to convict Bush et al for war crimes because they have confessed to authorizing “enhanced interrogation techniques” that is a sweet way of describing torture. In July 2010, Bush admitted to authorizing waterboarding and said he would “do it again” So m baker if you take a moment and consider the NDAA and Obamas executive orders it clearly shows tyranny. Not just tyranny but premeditated plans to to control every human in this country from guns to gasoline and at the rate of laws being enacted it will be impossible to protect your home and protect your children! So if you help this new dictator same as the old dictator your potentially hurting your family’s future as well!

    2. Hi Mr. Baker…..I am way up from your last post because there was no ‘reply button’ under that post. Don’t take this situation of no ‘reply button’ personal in that you would see yourself censored….you see it happens to me too and probably to many others. I think the site is set up that way to keep whole conversations together….makes it easier to follow…smiles…

    3. You are so right, M Baker. Thank you for pointing out our incredible insensitivity. We must be haters, holocaust deniers, conspiracy theorists, white supremacists, neo-nazis. I’ll amend my ways immediately. Thanks for your post.

    4. I wouldn’t go that far, but I would agree that it is really decadent for people to be adding to the suffering through these trivial pursuits. Internet blogging is a really self-absorbed and unhealthy activity when people should be getting out involved in real physical and social activities.

      Dante had it right in his circles of the Inferno, the schismatics and sowers of discord had a particularly poignant punishment.

      1. Sounds like you have done your homework, Rocky, and are prepared for Dante’s Inferno! You might try taking your own advice , “Internet blogging is a really self-absorbed and unhealthy activity when people should be getting out involved in real physical and social activities”

    1. Look into it . NEW MADRID fault line would be effected if Bayou Corne , Louisana blows up and there is plenty to make it blow up.

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