Wolfgang Halbig’s Quest for Truth

Requests for public records under the Connecticut Freedom of Information Act can result in threats of arrest under felony harassment charges. This is what former Florida State Trooper and school safety expert Wolfgang Halbig discovered after repeatedly telephoning and sending the series of emails, a portion of which appear below, to Newtown, Connecticut state and U.S. federal officials demanding more information on the Sandy Hook School massacre of December 14, 2012.

All of the requests below, spanning from records on Sandy Hook’s routine asbestos inspections to the key FBI crime report on the incident, have been met with almost complete silence. The non-responses from Connecticut and federal agencies were punctuated by two residential visits from local Lake County Sheriff’s deputies threatening to lock Halbig up if he persists in his pursuit of the truth. The most recent visit from law enforcement took place on Tuesday, February 18, when deputies questioned Halbig on his recent remarks to American Free Press’ David Gahary that he intended to travel to Newtown on a fact-finding mission in March.-JFT

From: Wolfgang Halbig
Fri, 27 Sep 2013 09:00:43 -0500
To: first.selectman@newtown-ct.gov
Cc: susan.marcinek@newtown-ct.gov
Subject: Mike Kehoe your Police Chief should be immediately fired for Negligence

Mrs Llordra:

I find this e-mail very difficult to write but as a Former Florida State Trooper and old now find the actions of your Police Chief very disturbing.

I have dedicated my life in public service and to read about your police chief giving Lt. George Sinko only a letter of reprimand for failing to respond to the Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting on Dec 14, 2012

You should ask yourself as to how a Lt. working an off-duty detail at a construction site and making overtime money can ignore 911 calls and a Newtown police dispatcher requesting help from police officers for shots fired at The Sandy Hook Elementary School.

I cannot imagine any police officer ignoring emergency help requests when children and school staff lives are being threatened.  To sit in your car and listen to all those emergency calls go over the airwaves and do nothing is negligence.

For over two hours he sits and does absolutely nothing while children and school staff are being shot and killed.

Your Police Chief states in the newspaper that he is not a first responder.  He also states that he was off duty.

I can tell you and so can any other certified law enforcement officer when working an off-duty detail that you are never off-duty especially when lives of children and school staff are at stake.

We in law enforcement are on duty 24/7 always on call.

This Lt is  24 year veteran and if he does not know his responsibilities then he should also be immediately be fired along with the Police Chief.

This is a national embarrassment that clearly demonstrates negligence by both the Police Chief for not calling him to duty that morning and for the Lt not responding to this crisis.

We are all first responders even if you are a Lt.

How embarrassing for the City of Newtown Ct having a Lt. sit for over two hours and not respond and only be given a letter of reprimand.

I know that there is more to the story and I only hope that you use common sense in handling this huge embarrassment for your City.

Wolfgang W Halbig

From: Wolfgang Halbig
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:11:53 -0500
To: Kathy June <junek@newtown.k12.ct.us>
Cc: “60m@cbsnews.com”  “brian.ross@abcnews.com”
Subject: Last try for Freedom of Information Act from your Interim Superintendent

Kathy;

Please tell your Interim School Superintendent that his response is total Horsepoop.

Hiding behind the safety of children and school staff in not releasing my information request is unprofessional if he is an educator.

I am simply asking for the Vendors name who you the school district or school hired to install the security system at Sandy Hook Elementary School with address and contact numbers

Just like Stanley Security Solutions has installed all of the security tools at the Sandy Hook replacement school.

They have donated over $100,000 thousand dollars in front door access control with CCTV CAMERA AND ACCESS BUTTON WITH CMAERA BEING A COLOR CAMERA.

THEY HAVE PROVIDED CARD READERS AT VARIOUS DOORS FOR STAFF USE.

THEY HAVE PROVIDEd YOUR SCHOOL WITH A NUMBER OF CCTV COLOR CAMERAS PLACED IN VARIOUS AREAS OF THE SCHOOL WHICH I DON’T WANT TO DISCLOSE SINCE IT MAY PLACE CHILDREN AND SCHOOL STAFF AT RISK.

What is wrong with your school district and your superintendents?  What are they afraid off?

I need the total cost of the project.

I need the date of completion.

I need the breakdown of the total cost as to what did the cameras cost? Are they color or just black and white?

I do not want to know the locations as I do know the placement of the cameras at the Sandy Hook replacement school and I promise not to ever hurt any child or staff in your school district.

Please comply with my FOIA as soon a possible since I have been waiting forever.

Wolfgang W Halbig

From: Wolfgang Halbig
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 09:12:28 -0500
To: <joe.rios@newtown-ct.gov>
Cc: Kathy June <junek@newtown.k12.ct.us>, “Katersky, Aaron” <Aaron.Katersky@abc.com>, “brian.ross@abcnews.com”, “60m@cbsnews.com”
Subject: Freedom of Information Act for the State of Ct.

Captain Rios:

Please provide me with copies of the contracts  and costs for the Crime Scene Cleanup in Decontaminating and Sanitizing the Sandy Hook Elementary School after Dec 14, 2012 .

The School Districts was considering allowing children and school staff to return to the school and now they have decided just to tear it down.

Who was the company that you the police allowed in the school providing me with the start date and end date of removing all of the Bio-Hazard materials.

Copy of the licenses that the company provided to you for transporting Medical Waste.

They would have to remove all the blood, bodily fluids, brain matter, skull fragments and around 45-60 gallons of blood based on the number of children and school staff shot and killed that day.

I am the Chief Investigator for the Children’s Safety Institute and a School safety Expert which now requires this information to be made available since it has been 11 month and you have not even provided a simple police or incident report.

If you do not have that information then please direct me to the agency that would have been responsible for decontaminating the crime scene and Sanitizing it since you allowed them into the school to remove furniture.

My address is [address]

Wolfgang W halbig

From: Wolfgang Halbig
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 11:00:41 -0500
To: Boston <Boston.Mail@ic.fbi.gov>
Subject: Re: Do I need to get arrested to show the FBI’s negligence in Sandy Hook?

Boston FBI Offices;You get things done.Boston Marathon Bombing and spectators killed and seriously  injured and you the Boston FBI in three days solve this heinous crime.Millions of people watching and with a President stating in a National Press Conference that he will use every resource in his office in solving this horrendous crime just as he stated during the Sandy Hook Press Conference.You are good and now I am being told that the FBI has NO jurisdiction in the Sandy Hook Elemenatry School Shooting. That only the CT State Troopers and the Dansbury State Attorney control this event yet I am told that you the FBI in New Haven are being told to retract your official report and that is why it is taking so long.I call this Bullshit.  Sorry for the profanity.I know the FBI since I worked with you guys in Miami, Florida as a Florida State Trooper and will never for get April 11, 1986 when two of your Agents were killed and five others were serioulsy injured.>We are law enforcment partners for life and after having to seen that crime scene my request for information and help should not be that difficult.I understand crime scenes and how we collect evidence but after 11 months and the failure of disclosing the truth has caused National Panic and Fear in all schools across this country and I can take you guys on a field trip and show it.Panic and fear should not drive school safety especially when we have not heard the truth.You act accordingly when knowing all the facts.Please help and I know it is New haven but they refuse to respond.Wolfgang W halbig

From: Wolfgang Halbig
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 17:17:45 -0500
To: <newhaven@ic.fbi.gov>
Subject: Do I need to get arrested to make my point?

Newhaven FBI Field Offices:

In major crimes such at Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting multiple agencies work closely together is trying to solve a crime as quickly as possible so rummors don’t fly around and create panic and fear as it now has now at sandy Hook.

You are part of this huge problem because I know that President has the report on the Sandy Hook supposed incident.

I know that the Attorney General Eric Holder has the report of the supposed incident at Sandy Hook.  Why not the National Media and put this ever occurring Sandy Hook terms to bed.

Boston; FBI replied and this was my response back to them.

>You make things happen.

You get things done.

Boston Marathon Bombing in which spectators were killed and seriously  injured and you the Boston FBI in three days solve this heinous crime.

Millions of people watching and with a President stating in a National Press Conference that he will use every resource in his office in solving this horrendous crime just as he stated during the Sandy Hook Press Conference.

You are good and now I am being told that the FBI has NO jurisdiction in the Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting. That only the CT State Troopers and the Dansbury State Attorney control this event yet I am told that you the FBI in New Haven are being told to retract your official report and that is why it is taking so long.

I call this Bullshit.  Sorry for the profanity.

I know the FBI since I worked with you guys in Miami, Florida as a Florida State Trooper and will never for get April 11, 1986 when two of your Agents were killed and five others were serioulsy injured.

We are law enforcment partners for life and after having to seen that crime scene my request for information and help should not be that difficult.

I understand crime scenes and how we collect evidence but after 11 months and the failure of disclosing the truth has caused National Panic and Fear in all schools across this country and I can take you guys on a field trip and show it.

Panic and fear should not drive school safety especially when we have not heard the truth.

You act accordingly when knowing all the facts.

Please help and I know it is New haven but they refuse to respond.

Wolfgang W Halbig

From: Wolfgang Halbig
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 08:18:58 -0500
To: Kathy June <junek@newtown.k12.ct.us>
Subject: CT Freedom of Information Request again

Kathy;

You don’t return my phone calls and now I am requesting again the following which has nothing to do with the criminal investigation or places children and school staff at risk.

Please provide quickly.

Please provide me with copies of the contracts  and costs for the Crime Scene Cleanup in Decontaminating and Sanitizing the Sandy Hook Elementary School after Dec 14, 2012 .

The School Districts was considering allowing children and school staff to return to the school and now they have decided just to tear it down.

Who was the company that you the police allowed in the school providing me with the start date and end date of removing all of the Bio-Hazard materials.

Copy of the licenses that the company provided to you for transporting Medical Waste.

They would have to remove all the blood, bodily fluids, brain matter, skull fragments and around 45-60 gallons of blood based on the number of children and school staff shot and killed that day.

I am the Chief Investigator for the Children’s Safety Institute and a School safety Expert which now requires this information to be made available since it has been 11 month and you have not even provided a simple police or incident report.

If you do not have that information then please direct me to the agency that would have been responsible for decontaminating the crime scene and Sanitizing it since you allowed them into the school to remove furniture.

My address is [address]

Thanks

Wolfgang W halbig

From: Wolfgang Halbig
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 08:38:07 -0500
To: “Rubio, Casework (Rubio)” <Casework_Rubio@rubio.senate.gov>
Subject: Re: Request a investigative copy if the Sandy Hook School shooting from President Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder now.

Whoever the case worker is:

You just don;t get it do you?  This is as urgent as it can get.  I am a Florida constituent who needs the Senator to get off his ass and get the report on Sandy Hook from the President or Attorney General Eric Holder.

You have NO clue as to what is happening out here with panic and fear running wild in all of our schools and you just don’t get it.

If you wait until Dec 14, 2012 when it becomes the first year anniversary of the Sandy Hook Shooting we will only escalate this panic and fear.

Do your research you don’t wait 11 month and have no solutions to the shooting especially when the FBI was directed by the President to investigate.

I need to hear from you and that Senator quickly on this issue and don’t tell me that this not an urgent issue pleae.

Wolfgang W halbig

From: “Rubio, Casework (Rubio)” <Casework_Rubio@rubio.senate.gov>
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:08:57 +0000
To: Wolfgang Halbig
Subject: RE: Request a investigative copy if the Sandy Hook School shooting from President Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder now.

Dear Mr. Halbig,

Thank you for your comments. I will be sure to share them with the Senator. Please direct any future legislative comments via our website; www.rubio.senate.gov to ensure that a member of our legislative staff has an opportunity to respond to your concerns. This email account is reserved for Florida constituents who require immediate and direct assistance with a federal agency. Thank you for your cooperation and understanding.

Sincerely,

David

From: Wolfgang Halbig
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 20:22:37 -0500
To: <michael.kehoe@newtown-ct.gov>
Subject: Re: Criminal Investigation is now closed so please provide my FOIA request now.

You need to be fired and actually if it turns out to be a conspiracy you need to go to jail and loose your pension like so many others in this heinous crime.

You guys should be ashamed of what you have done.

Your Lt stay on an off-duty construction site detail for over two hours and you justify it by saying he is not a first responder. I hope when you do your speaking engagements you share that will all our other law enforcement police chiefs and officers so they can have a great laugh.

You and vance are at the head of the line and you know it.  The truth will get out sooner or later.

Hope you sleep well you coward.

wolfgang

From: “Kehoe, Michael”
Reply-To:
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 12:39:28 -0500
To: Wolfgang Halbig
Subject: Fwd: Criminal Investigation is now closed so please provide my FOIA request now.

Sir
The items you seek under FOIA are exempt from disclosure under the same law.

Thank you!!

Chief Michael Kehoe
Newtown Police Department
3 Main Street
Newtown, CT 06470
203.270.4256

From: Wolfgang Halbig
Date: Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:28 PM
Subject: Criminal Investigation is now closed so please provide my FOIA request now.

I need you and your school superintendent to honor my CT State FOIA request that have been requested three months ago.

I requesting again under the CT State FOIA request protocols the following;

Contractors name and business address and contact numbers who was hired by the Sandy Hook Elementary School or the Newtown School District in installing the security system at the old Sandy Hook Elementary School.

The cost of the total project
The cost broken down by line item such as door locks at the front door, camera system to monitor people at the door and the recording system costs.

The cost of CCTV cameras for the school and the recording device purchased.

I do not want to know the locations of those cameras for school safety reason,

You were provided a complete and free security system by Stanley Security K-12 which included card readers for school staff, front door access controal with video monitoring and color CCTV cameras throughout the school.

I even know were they are located but I do not care about that just provide the information for the old Sandy Hook School.

Second Request under the Ct State FOIA request procedures;

1.The company that you the Newtown School Board and the Director of Facilities contracted to decontaminate and Santize the Sandy Hook Elementary School of all Bio-Hazards rsulting from the Dec 14, 2012 school killings.

2. The start date of the project in removing all Bio-Hazards such as Blood, Bodily Fluids, brain matter, skull  fragments, blood stained carpets in room 8 and room 10, blood splatter on desks and walls and windows etc.

3. The ending date of the project and total cost for decontaminationg the Sandy Hook Elementary School since you were considering opening the school again.

4. A copy of the contractors certification that he is approved in conducting crime scene decontamination of all Bio-Hazards in the State of Ct.

Your secretary took my other request of the FOIA dealing with the Life Insurance that the school board had to pay to six school satff members beneficiaries when they were killed in the line of duty.

Also the workers Compensation death benefits paid by the school board to the school  staff members beneficiaries who were killed in the line of duty by the school district.

This is my research project for my Doctorate so please provide this information.

Thanks

Wolfgang W halbig
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[address]

From: Wolfgang Halbig
Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 09:06:02 -0500
To: Kathy June <junek@newtown.k12.ct.us>
Subject: Ct Freedom of Information Act Request

Kathy;

This FOIA request is for the the name and all contact numbers of the Newtown School Districts licensed School Asbestos Inspector.

This request is also for all copies of all reinspections required every three years starting in 1997 through the demolition of the Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2013.

1997
2000
2003
2006
2009
2012

Please provide copies of written notification for each of the years listed to parents, school staff and employees organizations on an annual basis regarding the availability of the Sandy Hook Asbestos Management Plan.

Please provide training verification for your custodial Staff at Sandy Hook of the 14 hours of training and the two hours of training within the first 60 days of hire.

I hope that is not exempt as you always respond exempt.

Also do not make the Police Chief respond to my Newtown School District FOIA requests it is your responsibility.

I have forwarded my complaints to the Freedom of Information Commission for a response of your stone walling my requests.

Please mail all information requested to [address]

Thanks
Wolfgang w halbig
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From: Wolfgang Halbig
Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 08:43:53 -0500
To: Sally Cox <coxs@newtown.k12.ct.us>
Subject: SHS Parent Contact

I am a trainer for the US Justice Department COPS IN SCHOOL PROGRAM.

Are you a registered Nurse?

Why in the closet for four hours?

Why close your eyes when you have seen blood before you are a nurse?

Wolfgang W halbig

From: Wolfgang Halbig
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 10:51:52 -0500
To: “Vance, Paul” <Paul.Vance@ct.gov>
Cc: “Kehoe, Michael” <michael.kehoe@newtown-ct.gov>, “Ross, Brian E.” “60m@cbsnews.com” “Tom Winter (Personal)”
Subject: CT Freedom of Information Act request again

Lt. Vance;

You are great at ignoring CT Freedom of Information requests which being a law enforcement officer makes you intentionally reposnible since you threatened others for posting false information.

You threatened people with arrest and yet you fail to comply with the laws of CT.

I am requesting againg the Flight log of Ct Trooper One Helicopter for Dec 13, 2012 and Dec 14, 2012 starting each day at 6:00 am and ending each of those days at 6:00 pm.

I am requesting the helicopter manifest as to who was on board and all copies of video that was shot and recorded for both days that are dated and time stamped for accuracy.

I am also requesting the company that was contracted to clean up all Bio-Hazards such as all the blood, brain matters, bone fragments, stained carpet with blood.  Bookbags and furniture that was contaminated and had to be sanitized.

These are simple questions that even you should understand and have this request processed urgently

The case is closed and I believe the information is not exempt form public records.

Please act accordingly as someone who is a PIO for the CT State Police.

Thanks

Wolfgang W halbig
[address]
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From: Wolfgang Halbig
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:25:05 -0500
To: Kathy June <newtown.k12.ct.us>
Cc: “Ross, Brian E.” <Brian.E.Ross@abc.com>, “60m@cbsnews.com”
Subject: Asbestos in the Sandy Hook School

Kathy;

I am requesting under the CT Freedom of Information Act the Tri-annual Asbestos Inspection reports from a private individual certified in conducting this required inspections.

I want the name of the company ans contact numbers.

I need copies of the reports starting in 2002 through 2011.

I need copies of letetrs sent to parents and teachers informaing them of all of the Asbestos inside the Sandy Hook Elemenatry School.

There is NO doubt that Asbestos was present since I am providing you a picture of a company demolishing the scvhool and not using the proerr Asbestos removal protocol which is a serious federal violation.

Please provide this quickly since I have tried over and over again with NO return phone calls or repsonses to my Ct of Information Act requests.

Thanks again
Wolfgang W Halbig

262 thoughts on “Wolfgang Halbig’s Quest for Truth”

    1. The state of Connecticut maintains a pending case file look-up site. I looked up Reich referencing the article for first name and age, as well as court. There is no pending case, and no conviction either.
      http://www.jud2.ct.gov/crdockets/SearchByDefDisp.aspx

      But one thing you can say about the article – it announces that Wayne Carver has left the building, and created the impression someone trying to get answers may be prosecuted for harassment. But since we know the media lies, maybe this “case” never existed. Yah think?

      1. Jonathan Reich was scheduled to appear in Hartford Community Court on 6/5, 2013. The trail goes cold after this announcement. Perhaps he was detained at the Capitol Region Mental Health Center. Interesting that he also went by the name Scott Walker, the actor who allegedly was killed in a car crash recently. Maybe Jonathan aka Scott is as real as the Lanza family.

        http://www.jud.ct.gov/external/super/spsess.htm

        What crimes are handled in Community Court?
        The Community Court deals with a wide array of crimes including simple possession of marijuana, breach of peace, criminal mischief, criminal trespass, larceny (shoplifting), disorderly conduct, threatening, prostitution, solicitation of prostitutes, illegal liquor possession by a minor, public nuisance, public drunkenness, excessive noise, and illegal vending. Most defendants are issued a summons and/or are arrested and are required to appear at Community Court within two business days of being arrested.

        Jurisdiction
        The Community Court in Hartford is a special session of the Hartford Judicial District Superior Court. In addition to Hartford, the Community Court accepts cases from the towns of Avon, Bloomfield, Canton, Farmington, and West Hartford.

        What kinds of sentences are ordered?
        Most defendants are ordered to perform community service, in lieu of being sent to jail and/or fines. For example, defendants may work on street clean-up crews or help deliver food to the needy. The Court also requires all defendants to meet with a member of the Community Court Social Services Team. The Community Court’s on-site social services staff consists of representatives from the City of Hartford Department of Human Services, the State Department of Mental Health and Addiction Services, and the Capitol Region Mental Health Center. The court sanctions and monitors defendants mandated for further medical treatment by the Social Services Team.

        1. I assumed that even the “community” type cases would be covered in the search engine. Here’s the basic stuff I found on the court itself, created in large measure to deal with “nuisance” behavior arising out of poverty communities, where “paying back” to the community in service is the penalty, and where a large part of the cases are dismissed.

          http://www.courtinnovation.org/pdf/hart_comm_court.pdf

          At least we can say that whoever the reporter was who reported it, he sure didn’t want to let anyone think he would himself be guilty of asking too many pertinent questions, but that he is the sort of solid citizen who never writes anything out of line (i.e. asks why Reich believed Carver and others to be negligent or dishonest public servants). You see too that going to the court and following up on the case was not likely to happen, as it did not. Did they never see “All the President’s Men”? Don’t they know that mighty oaks start with little acorns?

        2. My Gawd, he’s on the loose! Carver probably has a stiff neck from looking over his shoulder.

          Llorda probably has a BOLO out for him. I have this image of her springing, “Cato-like” from buildings onto unsuspecting visitors. “Get out of MY TOWN, you interlopers. Take your DOUBT and go!”.

    2. There was a video of his phone calls to the office. He was pretty “emotional”. I guess he continued to call him at home.

    3. Having listened to a video of his call to Carver’s office it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s hooked up to a bag of Demerol, IV drip.

  1. We have refinanced our home, when the interest rates were lowered enough to make it a smart decision to save money. The amount financed was less than the previous amount.

    Do not understand how the property at 36 Yogananda was purchased in 1998 for $405,900 and according to this article was refinanced in 2004 for $490k and now $402k is still owed. Isn’t there something illegal with this transaction?

    http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-nancy-lanza-estate-20140220,0,7793150.story

    1. Kathy,

      I see no issue here. The property would have most likely risen in value between 1998 and 2004. So it wouldn’t be unusual to refinance at a higher value. Further, only paying down $88,000 in the next decade wouldn’t be surprising.

      So nothing in those numbers indicates any illegality to me.

      1. Well ok then. We took advantage of record low interest rates in 2008 and again in 2011 and will own the property. less the property tax/rental fee to the gov in a few years.

        Guess the only reason you would refinance your loan at almost 100k higher than the initial mortgage, is that you are broke. Why not sell and make a profit? Really hard to imagine being broke when you take in $200k a year without working which is always an option!

        Purchased the home in 1998 for $406k. in 2014 still owe $402k, something really smells fishy to me! 16 years of payments only reduced the mortgage by 4 thousand??? HOHOHO

        1. Kathy,

          Not saying it was a sound financial decision. But lots of people refinanced houses to pull out additional cash – especially in the boom time of the mid-2000s.

          Obviously there are a lot of fishy things about this whole story. This piece of real estate may be part of that “fishiness.” However, these numbers alone aren’t anything unusual, in my opinion.

  2. I have an open question for any MHB posters. Has anyone heard anything from alumni on ANY blog from Sandy Hook Elementary School that have attended from 1956-2011? I am excluding the one or two students from Newtown High School who gave interviews on 12-14-12.

    Also, has anyone uncovered anything on the finding of the time capsule that was supposedly buried in 1980 and not yet found at the time of demolition of SHES in Oct 13?

    The articles that I found on the subject matter are very curious. There was no one who came forward from the classes of 1980 to 1985, (reflecting grades K-4) with any knowledge of where the time capsule was buried. This would include students, teachers and staff, and potentially 500 plus in the age range of now of 40 and over with no recollection of that event.

    Was SHES even in operation during the 1980s and later?

    1. John, I have not. We looked at it at the “Sandy Hook Truth” site too. I don’t recall any alumni at all.

      I have also not heard of a time capsule.

      It is more than unlikely that no one would know where a time capsule was buried. That would sort of defeat the whole purpose.

      As usual, I haven’t formed a complete opinion on the school yet. It should be very simple to verify its operation. So far, I haven’t seen it. There are still those bus drivers, garbage collectors, grounds keepers, etc., that should be able to clear that up.

      I don’t disagree that it looks as though it was either closed or only in partial operation. If not then there are a lot of pictures of hundreds of students somewhere that we haven’t seen. Alternately, only a very small group (if any) were there on drill day.

      1. I still remain stuck on the parking lot, lophatt. Bureaucrats are very reliable. They go by the book with the most annoying fastidiousness, and the book at issue here is the Americans With Disabilities Act of 1990, which mandated that handicapped parking spots in public parking lots be painted blue.

        It is inconceivable that a public grammar school would ignore that requirement for more than two decades.

        I am not the one around here who first noticed the anomalous parking lot, but ever since this was pointed out it has struck me as definitive evidence that the building, if it was used for anything, had not been used as a school since the 1980s at the latest. I’d call it proof.

        1. Patrick, I have just been to google maps and I find that in my Massachusetts town, which is one of comparable wealth to Newtown, and with even more sticklers to various regulations, I see no blue highlighted handicap spaces. The blacktop surface looks pristine. And when I am in such a lot I find handicap signs (invisible from satellite views which are marked as recent ones) aplenty (too aplenty for my taste as they are often empty when everything else is full) but I am not seeing the level of paint job you’re talking about. I could go there and look around, and all of us could. But this is just one more piece of your puzzle, and compliance by the schools in my district, if that is indeed mandatory, has not happened. They will enforce everything they can here, too.

        2. Musings, I have helped out my handicapped uncle for the greater part of 25 years. All handicapped spots in malls, walmart, doctor’s offices, public buildings, private buildings, apt. buildings, schools, universities etc. have lines that are painted white, and a different color from the surrounding yellow lines. The lines are not blue, but white. The picture of the wheelchair which is painted in the spot is white/blue or blue/white. The sign placards have a blue background with a white caricature of a wheelchair and sometimes vise versa. That doesn’t matter. What does matter is that they are NOT painted yellow, are separate from the yellow lines, and closest to the entrances.

          The SHES parking lot was clearly in violation of not only the color scheme, but it was in deplorable condition and probably not resurfaced in over three decades or more. It did have evidence of patching and crack sealing, but nothing else. I guess they didn’t want any of the actors who parked there during the drill to get tire damage from the numerous potholes that were covered over, lol!

        3. My point John, was just that everyone can and should do a google map search of their own area to find out the state of school parking lots. I agree that SHES’s lot was in poor shape and the sign welcoming everyone in off the street a total joke, but if one is comparing it to others, it had better be an accurate comparison. I have no trouble understanding the SHES was a fake. I just don’t want anyone to be sidetracked into less relevant “truths” which turn out to be less than true themselves.

        4. Musings, my biggest problem with the SHES hoax is actually Newtown, CT. Based on the evidence I have seen, and not seen, I am starting to wonder if Newtown is another Love Canal with just a skeleton population.

          Things that I cannot accept without proof are:

          1.) A population of 28,000
          2.) Students actually going to Chalk Hill Elementary School (now SHES)
          3.) Students actually going to St. Rosa of Lima
          4.) Alumni that have come out in droves, I am not talking about a random 3-6 people who have come forward offering hope and prayer, but the several thousand alumni of those three Schools who should be offering insight, hope, prayer, interviews, etc.
          5.) Doing simple, simple math….If SHES has been in operation since 1956, and lets use a very small rounded down number of 100 students per year, there should be at the least 5,000-10,000 alumni who have something to say, anything at all. So far, you can count those who have come forward on one hand.

          Until I see adequate proof of any of these points, I will conjecture that Newtown, CT has been off the map for decades with very few inhabitants, virtually nothing to offer, and is in fact abandoned just like SHES seems to have been.

        5. On a walk I just took, I saw that the local parking lot for the Boston MBTA line nearby has both blue handicap signs and also blue handicap stenciling in the handicap spaces. However at a nearby local daycare, there are only spaces marked “staff” – however since it is on church grounds, there is probably an exception. I believe that the two schools I saw on the satellite view (elementary and high school) did not have such visible stenciling, but I can check them soon. I am pretty sure my city hall has all the bells and whistles, as does the town library..

          The other question is whether we could actually see the entire Sandy Hook parking lot. Indeed, it did look derelict, and I am sure it was. Now it is no more (or are there views still cached somewhere?)

        6. Where I live, they’re blue. Both on federal property and elsewhere. I have a handicapped daughter and I notice these things.

          Having said that, I suppose the “paint police” aren’t going to appear if somebody uses the wrong color. I know that certain pipes, water, fire, gas, etc., are color-coded too but they make mistakes all the time.

          Where I live they inspect all the time. They LOVE to fine people. The “deeper the pockets” the better.

          At a school I would expect that they would do fire and safety and health inspections at least once a year. I know that where I work we spent considerable sums of money getting compliant with ADA. We had to build ramps, etc..

          I’m still waiting for something “concrete” about the school occupancy.

        7. Patrick, thanks for the info on the parking lot. This is actually the first time I heard this mentioned.

        8. Patrick has caused me to develop a new fixation……parking lot stripes! Now, as I drive around, I’m looking at handicapped spaces everywhere I go. I confess……the MAJORITY of them are blue here. Some of them are not.

          As the ADA is pretty clear, I attribute that to the people who actually paint the stripes. I’m guessing if the supervisor doesn’t know any better, or doesn’t pay attention, they use whatever they have.

          Technically, they are supposed to be blue. I noticed that the spaces right outside the building permit office are not blue. Of course they are only interested in “green”.

      2. Lophatt, here is the article from last summer re the time capsule…

        http://www.theday.com/article/20130826/NWS12/130829771/1047/rss01

        My theory is that the time capsule was buried in 1956 and dug up in 1980, prior to the school’s closing. It would take actual newspaper articles from a hoarder who can shed light on as to when this school was closed. With pink and black bath tile original to 1956 as evidenced in the videos, my guess is that SHES never saw any renovations or remodeling since it was built.

        1. Patrick and John, both excellent observations. Patrick, my work involves compliance with what you mention. I too can’t imagine a school be non-compliant with ADA. Where I live this has been carried to such an extreme that they could host the “Special Olympics” at the local WalMart.

          As to the ’50’s “pink and black tile”, I get the picture. I have not said that I “believe” the school was open. I have said that “the jury is still out” for me since I suppose I need a little better “proof”.

          For example, Halbig makes a big deal of asbestos and lead paint. There are THOUSANDS of schools in that situation. It is not dangerous so long as it isn’t disturbed. It is FRIABLE asbestos that’s the problem and, unless you allow the students to lick the paint, you have nothing to worry about.

          Now, is that a “high-class school” for “high-class McMansion owners”? I don’t think so. Is it so “highly regarded” that people from Manhattan move there so they can send there kids to it? Unlikely.

          It was a frumpy post-WWII baby boom typical school. In fact, with their tax base I’m astonished they haven’t replaced it. The time capsule is interesting. As far as I know most (if not all) newspapers have morgues. I would imagine there would be stories on any remodel. If not at “The Bee”, at least at the library.

          I would further expect that any closure of the school would be accompanied by an article or two. Of course they’ve had over a year to “sanitize” this. That fact is suspicious in and of itself. I would love to hear from the bus drivers who delivered students and the garbage collectors who picked up the junk.

          We’ve been over this a hundred times. None of it washes. People do not behave this way. I totally agree that “bureacrats are very reliable”. Beyond that, there are regulatory agencies to make certain that they do. Halbig says that they didn’t make their annual notifications. How is that possible? How is any of this possible?

          They declare people dead, do autopsies in the parking lot, seal public records……., doesn’t sound “reliable” to me. It sounds like the total absence of oversight. Who could create a situation like that?

        2. Ah, newspaper archives of school activities, school renovations, school upgrades, and school inspections.
          Maybe, maybe not.

        3. One student was located who “clearly” remembers burying the time capsule:

          http://www.newstimes.com/local/article/Sandy-Hook-time-capsule-Is-there-more-than-one-4778246.php

          Excerpts:

          Mitchell was a Sandy Hook fifth grader in 1980 and she clearly remembers that the class had buried a time capsule at the school.

          What is less clear to the founder of the recently closed Sandy Hook Center for the Arts (The SHACK) is what she contributed to the capsule, and the exact location where it was buried.

        4. Anne, that is an “odd” article. It says there may be others. No one knows where. What would be the point of a “time capsule” if you didn’t know where it was?

          Would they put that in the school paper. I think they might. How would the demolition “destroy” them? Why would they write to Llorda?

          This is another of those idiotic stories designed to provide an excuse to put them in the news again.

        5. “It was always such a positive and bright environment”? Making Aztec murals dedicated to dead children and altars?

          Wow! It’s raining money in Newtown, she’s pushing the meme and can’t raise a dime? Must be running afoul of Ms. Llorda.

          This local artist can’t be located. Maybe she’s visiting the real “Hoagie”. Well, some day a group of archeologists will stumble upon this find. Sort of like a message in a bottle.

        6. Here is the man who knows if SHES was a functioning school or not on 12/14/12. He would surely know about time capsules, if any. His name is Dan Cruson, the town historian. Mr. Cruson was working on this book when the Sandy Hook event took place. I recall reading at the time that he would include the 26 casualties among the Legendary Locals of Newtown.

          http://www.newtownbee.com/news/0001/11/30/town-historians-new-book-features-notable-men-and/150962

          When:
          Mon Jan 13, 2014 07:30PM
          Where:
          Newtown Meeting House
          31 Main Street
          Newtown, CT 06470
          Town Historian’s Annual Lecture: Legendary Locals of Newtown

          “About a year ago he began work on “Legendary Locals of Newtown,” published this summer by Arcadia Press. It is from his research for this book that he will base his talk.

          The book would not be complete, he felt, without paying homage to the children and adults who died on 12/14, as Legendary Locals of Newtown was under way. The two-page photograph, at the book’s end, reminds readers “of 26 legendary locals whose lives were cut short.” He was also unable to get his hands on a good image for Fenn “Slim” Dickinson, for whom Dickinson Memorial Park is named, and as the book is meant to be primarily one of primarily one of photographs, that meant the late first selectman could not be featured in the book.”

          Dickinson Drive, where SHES was located, is also named after the first selectman. Many will recall that the first selectman was killed by a dump truck while visiting the construction site during the beginning stages of SHES. The full story of the current select(wo)man has yet to be written. Seems Newtown’s first selectmen have their ups and downs to the extreme.

        7. I watched a video of Cruson at a book signing. Ever seen paint dry? I rather suspect that Mr. Cruson’s career as the author of “page-turners” like this would be over if he has “unique” ideas about SHES.

          Given the cast of characters we’ve been exposed to in Newtown you have to admit that it takes a certain “panache” to stand out from the crowd. If strange had a home, this is it.

        8. Lophatt, perhaps paint is drying faster here. Completely healed Sandy Hook mother hawking her book in fancy Darien. Llodra pleaded for privacy so the families could grieve on their own terms. Ms. Lewis does not seem to care about privacy here, basking on her own terms in front of an adoring audience while collecting a few bucks on the back of her alleged dead son. Gross.

          http://www.newstimes.com/local/article/Scarlett-Lewis-seeks-to-choose-love-change-angry-5267724.php#photo-5937455

        9. Yes Anne, privacy is all well and good….., until there’s a buck to be made!

          They should try to get this place credentialed as a school for prostitutes. If I believed that this happened as advertised I’d be sick.

          Just look at the photo ops, the “funds”, the “foundations”, the political action committees. And, as you said, Llorda demands “privacy”. What a hoot.

          Where do these audiences come from? There’s no dignity to be found there.

        10. thank you apollonian …
          So many Americans say the Sandy Hook could not be a conspiracy because it is so big—well, 8.5 trillion dollars is unaccounted for in the Pentagon budget.
          NOT missing—unaccounted for. No paperwork issued or provided or needed—that’s how it works.
          So, say there are 1000 participants in this farce at SH..multiply that by $1,000,000 and you get ONLY 1,000,000,000 (1 billion) which is bird shit to the pentagon or DOD budget.
          It is plausible that 1000 cops, teachers, parents, a whole damn town would take the bribe—and many took lots less!!!!!
          The school was closed—it wasn’t open for years—this will never be known for everyone in that town, everyone in that courthouse privy to documents, every resident in that community, every official in that hospital, every EMT, every cop, every suspect, every fireman—have been bought and if not bought, threatened with their life and their family’s lives.
          Now, say there are 2000 participants—that is still only 2 billion dollars—try to find the parents now—in Newtown or anywhere in the U.S.
          Just try!!!

    1. Larry, Is this your video? Was that Robbie Parker with Susan Smith? Typical “Debunker” tactics. I suppose people questioning Sandy Hook are suppose to feel bad for questioning the event. FAIL!

  3. Mr. Halbig should locate somebody who donated to one of the Sandy Hook Hoax charities and who has since realized this has been a huge fraud. A lawsuit should then be filed against such charity to get some discovery. As Mr. Halbig said before, depositions and document discovery are the only way to get somewhere in this case.

    1. Very much agree. You have to have a dog in the fight, a case which concerns your personal interest. It is also possible to donate to the fund and then to complain about it, if that fund is still open. What you did or did not believe at the moment you donated would not be reached in the first phase of the thing. So looking for a former donor might be an unnecessary expenditure of time when you could just agree to kick in and help Halbig thereby.

    1. Good video. The drill is not over. These spin off PR/mind control pieces are all part of the drill. “Harvey” is right.

  4. Looks like Wolfgang has gotten a 2nd and 3rd visit from police officers:

    “Cops Harass School Safety Expert Wolfgang Halbig During Radio Interview Questioning Sandy Hook Event ”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0ThvL55R9I

    He breaks the news here on DTRH that after doing an interview last week, that went viral over the internet, and literally right before this interview took place, Wolfgang was visited by another Sheriff’s deputy and told again to back off. That’s the second visit. And as if that weren’t enough harassment, during the interview, Popeye and Wolfgang are interrupted, and the interview abruptly ended when a sheriff’s Deputy appeared at the house for a third time. Literally in the middle of the interview. The repeated harassment by “law enforcement” officials just proves that they have something to hide.

    1. I’m starting to get the feeling that something stinks in conspiracy land. All these “visits” from law enforcement officials make the whole thing seem faked. That’s not the way they do it.

      1. You may be on to something there violeta…

        You all ought to take look at the kateslate video that just came out. In the comments section, somebody mentions a video they saw that was deleted from yt about sandy hook school web page on the wayback machine, and there are links. It’s pretty crazy, no activity for 4 or so yrs before, then the new and improved sandy hook has a ton of activity in
        2013.

        1. This seems like more hard evidence to me. Those ya-hoos in Newtown are NEVER going to admit to anything…I mean even if the were in court, sworn in and all that, who cares?? Does a sociopath care if he is “sworn in”. The whole enterprise is laughable.

        2. Susan, great video. “Layering”, that’s observent. Why would the “ex-husband” have anything to say about her estate?

          We’ve all been over every inch of this. From the obvious lack of lawsuits (especially considering the handling of the “victims”), to the cheap and/or nonexistent furnishings in the house.

          I like the part with the nun creeping in the background. She must have been “on duty” listening to the police radio or something. That or she grew tired waiting around for the drill to kick off and wandered over to the school.

        1. What do you think the point of it all would be? To make us look like fools because we followed something foolish?

        2. I don’t think we have to judge it at this point. There might be some credibility issues. But the fundamental reality of what he found (whether or not he was threatened) means more than the theatrics. Mike Ruppert could be theatrical, but he was also right that 9/11 was a hoax. It’s just that he’s been a drama queen, which some say damaged the “movement”. I don’t think you can damage anything when people wake up. The details do not matter that much once you have understood that the official story is impossible. The details are a bonus.

        3. Oh, what’s the harm? People already think we’re worse than foolish! The plan Wolfgang has in mind just seems like an exercise in futility.

        4. I certainly couldn’t care less what anybody thinks. I don’t expect any confessions either. If they have plausible explanations for all the inconsistencies, fine. I wouldn’t apologize because, based on what we’re looking at, it doesn’t make sense to “believe”.

          Belief is neither an obligation or a default position. No one has to feel guilty about skepticism. We know we’re being lied to about 9-11, why would you think they tell the truth about anything?

          “Fools” are those who put their faith in liars. My skepticism of this is bigger than any individual who has come forth with questions. I don’t understand the worry about other’s “credibility”. What do you think?

          I don’t base my opinions on “who” someone is. I base them on what they say. If I don’t have enough information to form an opinion, that’s fine. I don’t have to.

          If someone comes forth with explanations that are compelling, fine. To date we don’t have any. The burden is not on us to “prove” it isn’t true. They have said a multitude of things, many of them proven implausible, if not impossible. Unless they can do better than that I don’t believe a thing they say.

      2. Violeta: to me, the significance of W. Halbig is he’s experienced investigator, so what he does is he CLARIFIES things and helps us to FOCUS upon the key info.

        It’s a lot like Snowden told us stuff we already knew about NSA fm others, but Snowden made significant things most POIGNANT so our thought and consciousness is better focused.

        To me, there are sooooooooooo many details, it’s hard to know how to focus upon the most important things–Halbig shows the way.

        I can well imagine the folks up in Connecticut really do feel they’re being “harassed” by this ol’ boy fm down Fla. way.

        If u ck http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/audioPop.jsp?episodeId=832014&cmd=apop, u’ll find Halbig gives excellent, cogent, lucid exposition of the pertinent facts.

        They HAD to tear-down the school because if there were 150 + shots fired (by Adam) there’d be bullet holes everywhere–which weren’t there, u see….

        People w. Asperger’s are notoriously un-coordinated for physical movements–so note the expert shooting by Adam w. 26 kills at the school, and 0-2 wounded, allegedly.

        The Conn. state investigation was heavily redacted, as we know, but the FBI report was TOTALLY classified–u couldn’t get it even w. FOIA request–Halbig explains this is un-precedented, and there needs to be a reason WHY this is done. Truly, EVERYTHING stinks about this Sandy Hook “event.”

        It got to pt. that Halbig started having a little fun–he asked who ordered the Port-o-pottys; he was told it’s “classified,” and he laughed. After Halbig made some calls, he was contacted by Conn St. police and told to quit harassing the Port-o-potty people.

        1. While listening to an Alex Jones rebroadcast that aired earlier today, a caller mentioned Wolfgang Halbig. Alex said he wants Wolfgang on his program and asked the caller for contact information. Alex also said that Sandy Hook was staged. Don’t listen that often to him, so I don’t know if that is a stance he’s had all along.

      3. Bingo-exactly what I was thinking-maybe I’m too sceptical,but the cops made ANOTHER visit coincidentally when the interview was being conducted? Maybe the phone should have been left open,not only for proof but for purposes of CYA….hmmmm.

        1. Mike: pertinent pt. now is WHAT & HOW to conclude fm all these details we observe–about Sandy Hook, and other “events” too. And that’s why I say that necessary conclusion is it’s yet another BIG-LIE instance in a series, etc. People now only have to grasp this BIG-LIE complex and then the sort of psychopaths who would do this–and then what we need to do just to save our lives. These psychos have amazing weaponry–HAARP, EMP weapons, and whatever it was that dis-integrated the WTC bldgs. on 9/11–see Judy Wood WhereDidTheTowersGo.com

        2. You know, that’s worth considering. Just like in these discussions we are prone to use statements made as if they are facts. For example, Apollonian uses “people with Aspergers……”. All we KNOW is that they SAID he had Asperger’s.

          They SAID he existed. They SAID (you fill in the blank). I do it myself, inadvertently. That is part of the drill as well. These little “seed pieces” that tend to establish the “humanness” of the character.

          So, we have actors, extras, various “players” who drift in and out. If nothing else, it certainly establishes the fact that you can’t trust anything said. Maybe that’s the point. Remember, it isn’t up to us to “prove” that it isn’t true.

          Halbig’s approach is actually pretty good. The part about asking “simple questions”. It is also true that he says “what’s the problem?”. Why would any of this be secret?

          I find all of it interesting but, the truth of the matter is that the basic premises are all wrong. The protocols were all violated. There is nothing “secret”, no matter how “tragic” about a murder case.

          We can, and should, speculate all day on details. But, if we never did that the basic facts remain. We all know what those are. If they use “disinfo agents”, it doesn’t change.

          I find it amusing that this isn’t going away. The more light that’s shed on it the better. At a minimum it makes it harder to do in the future. I don’t expect anyone involved to admit it. I expect that they will be uncomfortable and that’s fine with me.

          If Halbig is the “real deal” that’s great. If he isn’t, that’s OK too. Personally, I’d rather have a bus driver or garbage collector who had information. Sometimes “credentials” are suspect. I work with “people with credentials” every day. As a matter of fact, I’m “credentialed” myself. So what? It doesn’t make me any smarter about this.

        3. Mr. Halbig was interviewed by Joyce Riley on The Power Hour yesterday – Friday 2/21. Lophatt may recall the discussion on Sandy Hook Truth about the Mike Powers interview on The Power Hour back in January 2013. I listened to the interview again yesterday. Mr. Powers asked a number of questions as well and was forcefull in his promise to get to the bottom of Sandy Hook. To my knowledge Mike Powers did not do that and has since remained quiet on the subject. And who is Mike Powers?

        4. Yes Anne, I remember. I’ve said many times that, to me, it important to make distinctions between “becoming a follower” of someone and listening to someone.

          Just like you can’t completely disregard EVERYTHING a person said because you think they “lack credibility” (whatever that means). The inverse of that is becoming so infatuated with someone’s “credentials” that you hang on every word.

          I read anything I can find. That doesn’t mean I “believe” everything I read. If you have a PhD type entomologist holding forth on something, I’ll pay special attention if it’s the sex life of German Cockroaches. If it’s anything else, their opinion is about as good as mine.

          As I said when we talked about Powers before, I have a particular skepticism with regard to “swaggering – war hero” types. It seems that a lot of people believe they are privy to secret information, etc., when in fact that isn’t true. I guess I’ll listen, but they get no “special” attention.

          Halbig is fine from the “protocol” and “procedure” point of view. Beyond that, I don’t share the “brotherhood of blue” meme. That’s fine, this world is big enough for delusions of all types. I simply mean that I would not give a cop anymore credence than a garbage collector unless they were discussing “cop stuff”.

          So the long and short of it is, I agree that the “harassment” looks a little “strange”, but what he says is the only thing that’s important. I don’t find fault with most of the questions. I don’t think he presents much of a challenge to them, however.

        5. I missed this one, although it may be well known to everyone else. Adam Lanza was into all sorts of things we have been told, culminating in the death of 28 people. But I never heard this before – the Goth connection:
          Catherine Urso, who was attending a vigil Friday evening in Newtown, Conn., said her college-age son knew the killer Adam Lanza, and remembered him for his alternative style.
          “He just said he was very thin, very remote and was one of the GOTHS,” she said.

          http://www.newstimes.com/news/article/Making-magical-music-provides-healing-and-help-1782803.php

          We have to cut Adam some slack. I believe his killing spree should be blamed on crimes in 19th century Newtown, Connecticut and not some modern day expert explanations from near and far. Newtown may be new to psyops, but crime is a staple. So here we go:

          The Case Files of Detective Laszlo Briscoe: True Crime in Newtown 1889-1933 Hardcover
          the case files of detective Laszlo Briscoe chronicles sixty-three dastardly crimes actually perpetrated in Newtown, Connecticut, between 1889 and 1933. Author Andrea Zimmerman lives in Newtown and is currently a freelance writer & researcher. She also archived condolence material sent to Newtown following 12/14 tragedy.

        6. Wow Anne, how much money did they send in the 19th century? Are there any Baha’i condolences in her collection?

          The “Goth” thing sounds like a holdover from Columbine. So he’s either lurking in Mom’s basement thinking wicked thoughts or he’s “stylin'” with the Goths?

          They probably have a schedule for these “releases”. Dream something up and put it out there. As long as it keeps it in the public semi-consciousness, great.

        7. Right, Mike, that explains what I’m talking about.

          I don’t like the thought of being hoaxed by someone who is supposedly revealing a hoax.

          Just as we can’t prove SHS didn’t happen, I can’t prove Halbig didn’t get harassed.

        8. I think Halbig receiving visits from the “men in black” is just too pat and is for the purpose of making him look righteous and a martyr.Frankly,I don’t know what (or who) to believe any more.I guess that’s tantamount to “mission accomplished” as far as TPTB are concerned….

    1. Great find, Sandy. The third to last sentence of this article states that the house was transferred to Peter Lanza two weeks after the massacre. This never happens.

      They were officially divorced according to the official story. The hierarchy of heirs would be:

      1) Ryan Lanza
      2) Her Mother’
      3) Surviving Siblings
      4) They really do not need to go any further than that….according to divorce, Peter Lanza has no ties to the property.

      1. The only exceptions would be
        1) She left it to him in a will
        2) Part of the divorce agreement said it would revert to him if she died.

        But in intestate (without a will) succession, this is what would happen:

        The first intestate heirs would be those living after her death (if the time of dean could be established accurately). They would be Ryan and Adam, in equal shares. Then, when Adam died a few minutes or hours later, his share would revert to his living parent, Peter.

        So in the end, the survivor of Adam was his father, who would take the half share that was his on his mother’s death. The other half share of the estate would have already passed to Ryan.

        This makes very interesting the earlier story that the father was also dead out in New Jersey or something. Maybe they recognized the messiness of the story and tried to compensate for it early on by eliminating the father.

        I think there is something in this succession story, but I don’t know what. In any case, it is unlikely that Peter is the sole heir of the property. His son Ryan should be intestate successor of at least half and should be recorded as such, shouldn’t he?

        1. Musings, if Ryan Lanza was still alive on 12-30-12, and he is over the age of 21 (24), he would be entitled to 100% of estate, with a will or intestate. The fact that property (a house or car) was transferred two short weeks after death is impossible. It takes a minimum of two-three months to settle a simple estate.

          Legal offspring (adoptees) come first, and then parents. Even if Peter is listed in the will, a two week transfer would never happen. Didn’t we see other articles a few months back stating that the estate was unclaimed and unsettled? This is mindboggling!

        2. Not true. The estate must have passed through Adam, because he outlived his mother. His portion would revert to his father. That would be 50%

        3. The operative date is 12-14-12, isn’t it (the date of the alleged shootings). In an intestate succession that is what determines who gets Nancy’s estate, since she is the first to die (if that can be established). The age of Ryan is irrelevant as is the date of recording. It’s all about who owned what and when they did it. This is a common problem with automobile accidents when one family member dies immediately and the other dies later from his injuries. At the instant of her death, Nancy’s heirs are her two living sons. That sticks with each of them. If Adam had died leaving behind a wife, she would have gotten his half. Since his only heir at his death was his father, as the primary heir, that is who got the half that was Adam’s by right while he was alive after the death of his mother.

        4. I want you to understand that I am talking about rights in an estate, about the interests of each of the parties. Those interests exist often long before the final settlement of an estate, but they are relevant in terms of where an estate tax might fall. If you inherent something, you do as of the death date of the person you are heir to. If you die ten minutes later, your portion of the estate has already passed through you and the rules of succession determine, not expediency or convenience of the parties. Therefore, in this case, Adam’s interest arises the minute his mother dies (even by his hand), and when he dies, his sole heir is his father, unless he had already killed him (which is how the initial news reports read – probably to deal with this very problem).

          Had the initial news reports been correct, let’s visualize this:

          Adam kills his mom. Adam inherits half his mom’s estate. Then he goes to New Jersey and kills his father. Now his sole heir is his brother, Ryan. Whereas before the death of the father, extinguishing the father’s being Adam’s sole heir to his 50% share from Nancy, there is only one heir when Adam offs himself later: it is Ryan, and Ryan alone.

          But as it stands, there are two heirs to Nancy’s property, Ryan and Adam’s heir, his father.

        5. Nemo est haeres viventis. The father is only heir to Adam in theory, his heir apparent. When he is dead, there is but one heir to Adam, who is Ryan. But the dad didn’t die, therefore on the death of Adam, he became Adam’s sole heir.

        6. Actually, they SAID both. They announced that “Ryan” was the inheritor. Later they said it was to be determined. Why would they say anything if they didn’t know?

        7. Thank you for following up on the estate issue. Why is this important at this juncture in our quest for the truth? The answer is: civil law suit!

          Recall the class action suit filed on behalf of the Sandy Hook parents naming the State of Connecticut as the defendant. The judiciary claimed the defendant has immunity and can’t be sued. If the lawsuit would have been allowed to proceed, all the evidence relevant to the case would have been subpenaed and revealed to the court including the closed circuit video recordings installed in SHES. That’s what all of us want to see.

          Okay so the State can’t be sued but Nancy Lanza’s estate can be! Since Nancy Lanza was responsible for Adam (the alleged shooter), the Sandy Hook parents can charge the estate with wrongful death. Again, all the evidence mentioned in the previous paragraph would have to come to light.

          I think if somehow the law firm handling the case can be convinced in the name of justice to pursue it from the estate angle, we could see the videos and other pertinent evidence. I realize the estate doesn’t represent a profitable windfall for the law firm since the State has deeper pockets but this approach would be historic in its legal nature.

          One caveat is the statute of limitations in Connecticut for civil law suits which I believe in three years. So if this strategy is to go forward, it has to happen before the end of 2015.

    2. When the response seems negligent there are a few things people should understand. The actors involved in this got free housing. A real estate agent in the area that most likely knows about this has been missing for months. The investigation is a dead end.

      http://www.in5d.com/40-outrageous-facts-most-people-dont-know.html

      ou will discover things that most people don’t know. Here are 40 outrageous facts that most people are clueless about.

      1. The IRS is not a U.S. Government Agency. It is an Agency of the IMF. (Diversified Metal Products v. IRS et al. CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.D.I., Public Law 94-564, Senate Report 94-1148 pg. 5967, Reorganization Plan No. 26, Public Law 102-391.)

      2. The IMF is an Agency of the UN. (Blacks Law Dictionary 6th Ed. Pg. 816)

      3. The U.S. Has not had a Treasury since 1921. (41 Stat. Ch.214 pg. 654)

      4. The U.S. Treasury is now the IMF. (Presidential Documents Volume 29-No.4 pg. 113, 22 U.S.C. 285-288)

      5. The United States does not have any employees because there is no longer a United States. No more reorganizations. After over 200 years of operating under bankruptcy its finally over. (Executive Order 12803) Do not personate one of the creditors or share holders or you will go to Prison.18 U.S.C. 914

      6. The FCC, CIA, FBI, NASA and all of the other alphabet gangs were never part of the United States government. Even though the “US Government” held shares of stock in the various Agencies. (U.S. V. Strang , 254 US 491, Lewis v. US, 680 F.2d, 1239)

      7. Social Security Numbers are issued by the UN through the IMF. The Application for a Social Security Number is the SS5 form. The Department of the Treasury (IMF) issues the SS5 not the Social Security Administration. The new SS5 forms do not state who or what publishes them, the earlier SS5 forms state that they are Department of the Treasury forms. You can get a copy of the SS5 you filled out by sending form SSA-L996 to the SS Administration. (20 CFR chapter 111, subpart B 42 2.103 (b) (2) (2) Read the cites above)

      8. There are no Judicial courts in America and there has not been since 1789. Judges do not enforce Statutes and Codes. Executive Administrators enforce Statutes and Codes. (FRC v. GE 281 US 464, Keller v. PE 261 US 428, 1 Stat. 138-178)

      9. There have not been any Judges in America since 1789. There have just been Administrators. (FRC v. GE 281 US 464, Keller v. PE 261 US 428 1Stat. 138-178)

      10. According to the GATT you must have a Social Security number. House Report (103-826)

      11. We have One World Government, One World Law and a One World Monetary System.

      12. The UN is a One World Super Government.

      13. No one on this planet has ever been free. This planet is a Slave Colony. There has always been a One World Government. It is just that now it is much better organized and has changed its name as of 1945 to the United Nations.

      14. New York City is defined in the Federal Regulations as the United Nations. Rudolph Gulliani stated on C-Span that “New York City was the capital of the World” and he was correct. (20 CFR chapter 111, subpart B 422.103 (b) (2) (2)

      15. Social Security is not insurance or a contract, nor is there a Trust Fund. (Helvering v. Davis 301 US 619, Steward Co. V. Davis 301 US 548.)

      16. Your Social Security check comes directly from the IMF which is an Agency of the UN. (Look at it if you receive one. It should have written on the top left United States Treasury.)

      17. You own no property, slaves can’t own property. Read the Deed to the property that you think is yours. You are listed as a Tenant. (Senate Document 43, 73rd Congress 1st Session)

      18. The most powerful court in America is not the United States Supreme Court but, the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania. (42 Pa.C.S.A. 502)

      19. The Revolutionary War was a fraud. See (22, 23 and 24)

      20. The King of England financially backed both sides of the Revolutionary war. (Treaty at Versailles July 16, 1782, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80)

      …and as history repeats itself, Prescott Bush, father of George HW Bush and grandfather of George W. Bush, funded both sides of World War II. The Bush family have been traitors to the American citizens for decades.

      “Sarah, if the American people had ever known the truth about what we Bushes have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched.”

      George Bush Senior speaking in an interview with Sarah McClendon in December 1992

      21. You can not use the Constitution to defend yourself because you are not a party to it. (Padelford Fay & Co. v. The Mayor and Alderman of The City of Savannah 14 Georgia 438, 520)

      22. America is a British Colony. (THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION, NOT A LAND MASS AND IT EXISTED BEFORE THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR AND THE BRITISH TROOPS DID NOT LEAVE UNTIL 1796.) Respublica v. Sweers 1 Dallas 43, Treaty of Commerce 8 Stat 116, The Society for Propagating the Gospel, &c. V. New Haven 8 Wheat 464, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80, IRS Publication 6209, Articles of Association October 20, 1774.)

      23. Britain is owned by the Vatican. (Treaty of 1213)

      24. The Pope can abolish any law in the United States. (Elements of Ecclesiastical Law Vol.1 53-54)

      25. A 1040 form is for tribute paid to Britain. (IRS Publication 6209)

      26. The Pope claims to own the entire planet through the laws of conquest and discovery. (Papal Bulls of 1455 and 1493)

      27. The Pope has ordered the genocide and enslavement of millions of people.(Papal Bulls of 1455 and 1493)

      28. The Pope’s laws are obligatory on everyone. (Bened. XIV., De Syn. Dioec, lib, ix., c. vii., n. 4. Prati, 1844)(Syllabus, prop 28, 29, 44)

      29. We are slaves and own absolutely nothing not even what we think are our children. (Tillman v. Roberts 108 So. 62, Van Koten v. Van Koten 154 N.E. 146, Senate Document 43 & 73rd Congress 1st Session, Wynehammer v. People 13 N.Y. REP 378, 481)

      Also see:
      3 Financial Suicides in 5 Days…. Something Is Going Down and It’s all collapsing, right on schedule!

      30. Military Dictator George Washington divided the States (Estates) into Districts. (Messages and papers of the Presidents Vo 1, pg 99. Websters 1828 dictionary for definition of Estate.)

      31. ” The People” does not include you and me. (Barron v. Mayor & City Council of Baltimore. 32 U.S. 243)

      32. The United States Government was not founded upon Christianity. (Treaty of Tripoli 8 Stat 154.)

      33. It is not the duty of the police to protect you. Their job is to protect the Corporation and arrest code breakers. Sapp v. Tallahasee, 348 So. 2nd. 363, Reiff v. City of Philadelphia, 477 F.Supp. 1262, Lynch v. N.C. Dept of Justice 376 S.E. 2nd. 247.

      34. Everything in the “United States” is For Sale: roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, water, prisons airports etc. I wonder who bought Klamath lake. Did anyone take the time to check? (Executive Order 12803)

      35. We are Human capital. (Executive Order 13037)

      36. The UN has financed the operations of the United States government for over 50 years and now owns every man, women and child in America. The UN also holds all of the Land in America in Fee Simple.

      37. The good news is we don’t have to fulfill “our” fictitious obligations. You can discharge a fictitious obligation with another’s fictitious obligation.

      38. The depression and World War II were a total farce. The United States and various other companies were making loans to others all over the World during the Depression. The building of Germanys infrastructure in the 1930’s including the Railroads was financed by the United States. That way those who call themselves “Kings,” “Prime Ministers,” and “Furor.”etc could sit back and play a game of chess using real people. Think of all of the Americans, Germans etc. who gave their lives thinking they were defending their Countries which didn’t even exist. The millions of innocent people who died for nothing. Isn’t it obvious why Switzerland is never involved in these fiascoes? That is where the “Bank of International Settlements”is located.Wars are manufactured to keep your eye off the ball. You have to have an enemy to keep the illusion of “Government” in place.

      39. The “United States” did not declare Independence from Great Britian or King George.

      40. The etymology of government means to control the mind. From Latinised Greek gubernatio “management, government”, from Ancient Greek κυβερνισμός, κυβέρνησις (kybernismos, kybernesis) “steering, pilotage, guiding”, from κυβερνάω (kybernao) “to steer, to drive, to guide, to act as a pilot” plus Latin mente “mind”.

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      1. People are so mesmerized they ‘can’t see the forest for the trees’ or the ‘farce for the treason.’ I’ve been trying to tell People all of what you posted PLUS, to watch “Meet You Strawman” on Youtube – it reveals that this entire government has ZERO juris-diction or authority over anyone – UNLESS they don’t know that their inalienable rights have been usurped by foreign interests, who engineered the entire farce called THE UNITED STATES. Which IS NOT “America.”

        All CAPITAL LETTERS has to do with FICTIONS called CORPORATIONS. Look at your DRIVERS LICENSE folks. Then ask yourself, “Am I a CORPORATION?”

        Answer: Yes, but only if you acquiesce your rights to these impostors who dare call themselves our ‘author-ities.’ And that is why they ‘author’ everyone’s lives with LEGISLATIVE “ACTS” – because that’s what the whole thing is – AN ACT.

        Those who don’t know and assert their ‘god-given- rights, have none.

        1. Zareth: so what are u saying here?–is this corp. stuff u’re talking about something like a secret known mainly by these criminals, imposed on the volk without the people knowing?

          What u say reminds me of the secret lingo it is alleged on part of the satanists within the gov. who speak to one another by means of satanic symbology, like 666 and other sort of secret satanic signs, numbers, etc.

    3. Regardless of the technicalities and laws that vary state to state, wouldn’t this still have had to go through some kind of probate? Usually about 6-months to pay off bills and allow any claims on the Estate.

      And, besides being a very strange and strongly worded article towards Nancy and Adam,
      The real kicker of this story is:
      Who are these lawyers that want to sue the estate on behalf of the victims? That’s news to me.

      1. Irving Pinsky is the lawyer who has survivor clients, waiting to sue the estate. Peacenik Pinsky, with the flowing mustache, postulated about the front glass: “It was supposed to be bullet-proof.”

        He brought the one and only suit, for 100 million, on behalf of an unnamed surviving student. The suit faced a tidal wave of public outrage and was denied by Paul Vance Jr.

        Pinsky’s based his case on the school’s negligence in providing reasonable protection for his client. As an attorney, he had a right to view evidence – so probably reviewed the newly installed and very expensive Sandy Hook school security system. When he said the glass was supposed to be bullet-proof…

        I think Pinsky would be a good attorney to protect Wolf.

        As far as Nancy and the 64K estate, I read that 59K of it was cash, and 5K was the value of her jewelry.

        The math doesn’t add up because she owned two late model cars – the black Honda and the silver Audi. Her home was purchased well before the 2006 housing bubble. If she purchased it in 1998, it should be worth almost twice what she paid, and 14 years of payments should have reduced the principle by at least 30%. Her income of a quarter of a million dollars would have been hard to spend, considering that the contents of the home showed no evidence of any recent investment.

        This is more evidence of a staged hoax. I don’t think it was Nancy’s house – there is some evidence that it belongs to Pat Llodra. I think we now know the reason for the 12/13/2012 DOD for Adam. It simplifies the inheritance to Ryan. Also, it looks like it was probably Rodia’s car after all.

        1. Yea, I heard about that guy early on and was denied standing to sue or something.
          But this recent article implies there’s a whole swarm of lawyers waiting to sue the Lanza estate.
          I found this strange as many have said “where’s the lawsuits” and now lo and behold that article claimed there are pending lawsuits. But not against SHE school district..wink wink.
          Anyway I think that whole article was a fabricated story to dismiss the lawsuit question by publicly stating Nancy was broke and her property is under water.

      2. IN my experience (with my own dad’s intestate estate in California – although most places abide by common law rules, which if there are no minor children are pretty simple, and basically the same as Calif’s) – the intestate estate has an administrator rather than an executor. The executor would be a person appointed by the will to pass out the benefits and pay the estate duties and taxes while property is held. The administrator is appointed by the probate court, but usually a family member will file to request to be appointed to administer the estate. If nobody in the family objects, then that person will be appointed by the judge. There is no problem with either executor or administrator also being an heir by will or at law.

        The probate process is simply one in which the court receives information that all parties to the estate get notified, that it is being wound down properly and that the property is being distributed. If there are liens against property, they get taken care of before the property transfers from being designated as owned by the estate of decedent to being owned either by family members or the person it was sold to.

        As I have stated above, if Nancy did not have a will at her passing, then her estate is intestate, and that estate is seen as happening at the moment of her death on 12-14-12. If it can be established that she was dead by the time Adam left the house, he left the house that morning with a 50% interest in his mom’s estate, shared equally with his brother Ryan. It does not matter that he didn’t survive the day.

        When he died, later that day, Adam’s intestate estate (assuming he had no will) passes entirely to the living person who is his heir (assuming he did not kill him too, as earlier news reports stated) who is Peter Lanza, his father.

        So now there have been TWO estates generated, even before probate or anything. They are Estate of Nancy Lanza and Estate of Adam Lanza.

        We’re assuming here that Adam had no trust funds or anything like that. Of course he was a mental case, so of course nobody would have loved him enough to set up an estate to provide for his education, not even a doting grandparent. You know how this works.

        I could go on and on. But there are TWO estates here.

        1. Oh, and one more thing, which might explain the early and impossible news reports that Adam killed Peter Lanza – it would have made estate matters simpler, more streamlined. There’d now be three estates, one more from the dead father, but of course Ryan would take 100%, inheriting from parents and brother. But it would have to go through a few more boxes to get to him, with Uncle Sam collecting each time.

          Here’s how it would work:

          a) Nancy’s goes 50-50 to the boys.
          b) Peter’s goes 50-50 to the boys (unless he has remarried, which would complicate it).
          c) Then Adam, in possession of his half share from each of his parents, even if not probated, because it vests in him the moment each of them dies, even if by his hand, offs himself, leaving what he got to Ryan.

          Assuming dad had not remarried or made a will, that he was just as feckless as Nancy and died intestate, Ryan is the winner take all, but at
          a, b, and c, there is estate tax levied if it is above a certain amount.

          Taking out the part of the story about killing the dad might have made it simpler for subsequent plot lines in which there is some kind of probate process. After all, a “two state solution” involving New Jersey as well as Ct. could blow the whole thing. Maybe NJ wanted too much vigorish for playing along.

        2. Precisely so. That is why they couldn’t have possibly “known” in two weeks that Ryan had it. There would not have been time to make notifications.

        3. I don’t think notifications would have been necessary unless there had been a will. So the probate court will (if it is also playing along) have a file in which there is either an executor (if there was a will and it named one or more executors – there could be co-executors) or an administrator (this is more problematic – some courts insist on appointing one themselves when there is no will, though family members normally apply for it – it is a classic pitfall for an estate, because the judge could appoint a crony who will charge the estate for representation and getting out notifications).

          The intestate succession in its purest form is very simple. You don’t have to contact every cousin if there are heirs on the scene, as there were in this narrative. Both Ryan and Peter, his father, are heirs. Ryan inherits 50% of Nancy’s estate. The other 50% passed through Adam (like crap through a goose, to quote General Patton), and plopped right onto Peter’s plate as his parent and sole heir.

          Your siblings do not inherit from you in an intestate succession unless you have 1) no spouse, 2) no children, and 3) no parent. Adam “died” with a living dad (even though the drama originally thought to kill him off too).

          The notifications would be mostly about appointing an administrator I would think.

          And yes, it would be too short a time to pass the property to anyone.

          When you are shopping for real estate and someone has died, normally you are not buying from a family member but from an estate because,

          (as in this case),

          Peter and his son Ryan are going to have to divvy that property 50-50, first turning it into money through the estate sale. The exception might be if they could come up with an agreement where the person actually wanting the house itself paid in for the other person’s share, paying into the estate. The tax people really don’t like you to evade any of the steps.

          When my mother’s father died (with a will, because he was a lawyer and he cared about such things), she had been living with him in his condo and taking care of him. The estate allowed her to live there rent-free for two years, but only by getting permission from every one of his heirs, with paperwork that was notarized. It was then filed with the court and permission was given for her to hang out there without selling for a few years. Everything is done with court supervision.

        4. At some point below or above, it seems you said “Ryan” “was the inheritor.” In reality, given intestate succession, Ryan and his father inherit Nancy’s estate 50-50, because Peter is the sole heir, as the sole living parent, of “Adam”‘s estate. Adam’s estate formed in an instant when his mother died. He was alive, she was dead. In the intestate succession process, he was fully vested with the 50% of her estate that his brother did not inherit, before probate and without regard to probate.
          Therefore, upon his death, it passed to his one living parent.

          Peter cannot actually be the owner of Nancy’s house without a lot of activity in court. Someone had to be appointed the estate administrator and he had to have bought out Ryan’s share.

          If this were a “normal” situation (i.e. nonfiction) then most likely at this point the house would belong to “Estate of Nancy Lanza” unless it was always in the name of Peter Lanza.

        5. Actually Musings, “all I know is what I read in the papers”. I READ that “Ryan” inherited Nancy’s place. Then they said that was undecided.

          I certainly am not familiar with Connecticut law. Most laws do follow a pattern, however. I know, for example, that a distant aunt of mine passed away and they notified me and I had ninety days to respond.

          So, I “assume”, that unless there was a will, some notice needs to be posted and some attempt made to locate those who might have an interest. Maybe not, I know that they do that here.

          The real point is that the whole thing is suspicious. I see no value added in making such announcements. I don’t see how Peter would have ANY interest in this as they are divorced and he allegedly signed the place over to Nancy. Maybe HER family would have a stake in this.

          As someone said earlier, if they bulldoze this place we’ll have our answer.

      3. The story is garbage in that newspaper. It doesn’t explain the legal situation which would be true in a real probate case.

        1. 36 Yogananda Street – From Assessors Online Database:

          Parcel Value
          Appraised Value Assessed Value
          523,620 366,540

          Owner of Record

          LANZA NANCY J

          Ownership History
          Owner Name Book/Page Sale Date Sale Price
          LANZA NANCY J 983/ 347 2/8/2011 0
          LANZA NANCY J EST OF 1025/ 689 2/1/2013 0

        2. That makes more sense Anne, so thanks. The current owner (as of 2/1/2013) is listed as “Estate of Nancy Lanza”.

          Under common law intestate succession, you have only two claimants to that property: Ryan, and Estate of Adam Lanza(which is going to go to his father Peter Lanza as his sole heir; the brother would only inherit from Adam if there were no living parent – it doesn’t go sideways unless there are no children and no parents).

          Lophatt, I assume your aunt had no parents, spouse or children living at the time you inherited from her by intestate succession (a will is something else, but no everyone has one).

          The newspaper notices are for when someone is found dead and they don’t know if they have relatives.

          In a family situation under Ct. law of intestate succession (it is a common law state like Massachusetts where I live, but even California is the same): you basically have the whole thing sewn up in this case.

          I feel they originally planned to kill off the dad in this soap opera to “simplify” but then they realized that if they did, they’d have to probate his estate under New Jersey, and it would introduce a whole other state to the mix, including corrupting their probate court too. Maybe NJ only likes to be corrupted by its own gombas.

        3. Oh, gee – gone back to earlier reports. It appears from them that father lived in Stamford, Ct. Somehow I thought earlier reports (of his murder) had him living somewhere else – either NY or NJ. But the complication would have been his second wife, who’d inherit from him. Maybe that didn’t work out in the narrative. Details, details.

        4. The earliest reports were of a girlfriend missing and a father killed, both in New Jersey. Probably scripted to add to the confusion of Adam using Ryan’s IDs, which means Ryan did not need his IDs for two years – the reported time span from the two brothers’ last known get together. Ryan was also reported to work in New York while living in New Jersey.

          We are then told that daddy Peter is alive after all and works in Stamford while residing there in his second wife’s home. The missing girlfriend was forgotten as the script got crazier and crazier. New Jersey has its own town named Sandy Hook which was subjected to a major hoax in June 2012 involving the coast guard.

          The second wife’s home was listed for sale and the Lanza family vanished from the face of the earth, two are rumored to be in the earth, and the only face and voice has been the fast rising to fame PR spokesperson Cockfield. The comparison to the tales of Jessica Lynch and Pat Tillman is spot on. They were made into national heroes too created by deception tactics.

          http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/Lanza-s-father-moving-out-of-Stamford-home-4708451.php

        5. Anne B, this is a reply to your script comment and Coast Guard Hoax. Could you please explain the Coast Guard Hoax?

          Great to hear someone talking about scripts. Have you seen truthnow88’s on glp breakdown of Sandy Hook.

        6. hsheep: No, I was not aware of TruthNow88, but I just looked into what he/she has to say.

          President Franklin D. Roosevelt is quoted as saying “In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.” The same can be said for psychological warfare – the scripted kind we are subjected to.

          Definition of Psychological Operations by US Department of Defense:
          Planned operations to convey selected information and indicators to foreign audiences to influence their emotions, motives, objective reasoning, and ultimately the behavior of foreign governments, organizations, groups, and individuals. The purpose of psychological operations is to induce or reinforce foreign attitudes and behavior favorable to the originator’s objectives. Also called PSYOP.

          “See also consolidation psychological operations; overt peacetime psychological operations programs; perception management.”

          We are on the domestic receiving end of psyops – perception management. The script changes according to the targets’ perception of events, easy in today’s climate of constant electronic surveillance.

          About what happened in Sandy Hook, NJ:
          http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/06/coast_guard_sees_similarities.html

        7. Anne, yeah, when I was researching I kept running into the Coast Guard thing.

          Roosevelt was right. Of course, nobody said they were always GOOD at planning. Sometimes their utter contempt and detachment from “the great unwashed” leads them to some silly conclusions.

          This is a lot like a “pea and shell” game. They float little pieces of nonsense and, while we’re chasing them, they get their “perps” outta Dodge.

          Ryan was reported in Hoboken. Peter was once said to be in New Jersey as well. I understand from your post that he went to live with the girlfriend in Connecticut. Now……who knows?

          Seems like the only one able to track him down is Cockfield. Of course he only appears at “official” meetings and at strategic times. Joe Stalin would be envious of the control they have over this situation.

      4. Since the victims are not to be found–find one, just one!!

        They are fakes.

        So who is this lawyer filing on behalf of ???

  5. Another question for Mr. Halbig. I was just reading about a school shooting drill held recently on Police State USA. The blanks they used set off the fire alarms. School fire alarms are set to dial up the fire dept. immediately. I would like to know exactly when the school fire alarm called the Sandy Hook fire department. This would tell us exactly when the shooting started. Did this call precede the first 911 call? If so, did the fire dept. attempt to respond. Did someone call after this to tell them not to respond? If not, then why didn’t they respond? Aren’t their call logs a matter of public record?

    1. Ho ho ho (to paraphrase apollonian): the Sandy Hook Volunteer Fire & Rescue Company’s website shows NO CALLS received on 12/14/2012.

  6. I have to sympathize with some of the commenters questioning the lack of professionalism in these published emails. They sound like emails I might make if I wished to antagonize some obviously corrupt local official expecting nothing more from my time than irritating them. A person using the limelight given to him from various independent news sources to promote his investigation ought to hold himself to a higher standard. I am not drawing any conclusions based on this but it is interesting and I am noting its position in my mental rolodex. There is so much controlled opposition in this business I think people have a right to be skeptical about anyone appearing out of the blue to lead a movement. I am not saying I agree with anyone’s position, just that I understand why people may differ on any one person’s legitimacy. I don’t think that by not jumping on a particular bandwagon someone is exhibiting troll like behavior.

    1. That’s it, fishy-fish–sympathize w. the satanistic mass-murderers and their suck-alongs, the bureaucrats and PUBLIC-SERVANTS of Connecticut–admonish the patriots and heroes for not dotting all ur eyes and crossing tees, eh?

      Get a clue, the e-mails are perfectly clear–the PUBLIC SERVANTS (do u understand meaning of the terms?) are told to submit the info in accord w. law which those PUBLIC SERVANTS, paid by the taxes extracted fm the poor tax-payers, are REQUIRED to do by law–get the picture?

      1. Perhaps you should reread my comment as you are attributing things to me that I have not written. I noticed you doing the same thing to other commenters that are perhaps less frenzied than you.

        Some on this forum seem to have a hard time telling who their friends are.

        Can’t see the forest for the trees…

        1. Ok fishy-fish: I re-read ur original posting, and by golly, I hold to same reaction as I gave–u admonish the patriots, sympathizing and excusing the real culprits. I also think u have difficulty w. truth. Me “frenzied”?–ho ho ho–so what?–as long as my postings are to-the-pt. and say something substantial–isn’t that the necessary thing?

        2. I know reading is difficult for you but I sympathize with other commenters who questioned the lack of professionalism in the emails not with the players in Connecticut and DC. You read it twice and still don’t “have a clue.” Wow, with the way you jump to conclusions and down others throats you really seem better suited for the Jonestown comment section than MHB.

        3. Well, we’ll just leave it to readers to decide for themselves whether I jumped to conclusion, whether u effectively make excuses for the satanists. I say it’s pansy to complain about “lack of professionalism” when words and ideas expressed are quite clear, appropriate, and sufficient to the task–we want that info, eh?

        4. I think what you want is to control the discourse, nothing more. Good luck with that.

          Just so you know, I am not the type of person you would call a pansy to in person.

    2. I can not believe that commenters are so concerned with grammar, spelling and sentence structure. We should be more concerned about prosecuting these fraudsters for the crime of the century, and in this case it is treason. The highest punishment allowed by law should be administered to all involved, even the children who were part of this hoax should face a stint in juvenile detention.

        1. John: u’re right–BUT note, the prosecution would/should quickly EXPAND to all the other instances of BIG-LIEs and frauds perpetrated by ZOG, like, to begin w., Bost. Marathon “event,” but then it would have to move to 9/11 itself, OKC bombing, JFK assassination, etc.

          Crux to it is the US Federal Reserve Bank legalized COUNTERFEIT fraud which founds, funds, and finances EVERYTHING else.

          And this will all happen, soon enough, esp. when US Dollar decisively collapses–it’s already in process, beginning stages–that’s why they’re stoking up a good war somewhere to muddy the proverbial waters.

          For now we must simply continue to inform the volk, I submit, by emphasizing the BIG-LIE nature of these events, Sandy Hook and Bost. Marathon–which works, u’ll note, by getting the people to fool themselves, they grasping the enormity of it all, but fearing to conclude ZOG is responsible, rather saying to themselves, “nooooooooo, they wouldn’t dare….”

          For good expo on concept, hist. of this big-lie technique, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Lie

        2. My comment was to Fishandroaches A prosecution replete with crisis actors as the judge, prosecutors and jury. haha

        3. Good idea. We could do a musical trial. “Here come da’ judge……”. The closest anybody involved with this will ever get to a trial is at the Pearly Gates.

          Who ya’ gonna call? Eric Holder (we gotta brainwash them)? Gov. Malloy? “Hey, I got a hot project for ya’ over to the school. Use the usual rates”. I know, Pat Llorda. “You need a passport to enter my kingdom, (or is it Queendom?)”.

          If we hurry we can help make “Aztec Altars” down at SHACK. The Satanists will put those to good use.

      1. Suppose one overlooks the spelling errors, sentence structure, and cursing, I don’t see anything new being revealed or any effective action being taken. I don’t imagine that much could come of Halbig visiting Newtown. There is no reason that anyone involved would feel as though they need to answer to him. He has no power.

        I don’t know why so much attention is being given to him and his emails, and I have a hard time believing that he is being visited by Florida state troopers.

        It doesn’t really matter what I think, but I would like to back up what fishandroaches is saying.

        We have to be careful with respect to discernment. There are entities trying to deceive in all places. I wouldn’t put it past “them” to try to make us into conspiracy idiots……fools that will listen to anyone.

        1. “…and I have a hard time believing that he is being visited by Florida state troopers.” –violeta

          This, above is what’s amazing about u, violeta, and u make statements of this sort–“out of the blue,” so to speak, quite easily, I note.

          WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY do u have such a “hard time”? U make assertions w. no premises to give foundation. I have no such “hard time” so “believing”–but I guess I’m not as observant or discerning as u.

        2. Constantine the Great was no less than the 13th Apostle, as he made known at the great Council of Nicea in 325. The Bishop Eusebius affirms Constantine was baptized at his death-bed. But regardless, Violeta, don’t u think u need to supply some sort of reasoning for ur conclusion W. Halbig doesn’t deserve to be believed? Is Dave Gahary fooling us that he interviewed Halbig?–what’s ur reasoning?

    3. We all come into this world with special talents, some of us choose to nurture and grow with our experiences and thank the Lord, many of us get focused on helping their fellow man with their occupations.

      Likewise, we all have warts, but we are still perfect, most of us, for who we are.

      You say, you would have written a perfectly worded letter? By all means do so, what is stopping you if the truth is what you are seeking? Keep us informed when you get any response.

      Have worked for many brilliant managers, who gave great speeches, had great visions that seemed impossible to most, but turned into fruition. They relied on others to transpose their words and visions into perfect proposals and presentations with graphics that actually displayed their visions of the future.

      Mr. Halbig is approaching 70 years young and has been in management most of his career. Something tells me, he probably was not exposed to the computer technology, most of us younger folks have been. This is a personal agenda of his to expose the truth and not something he would assign to a staff member to wordsmith or remove his emotion from the criminal goings on in a brotherhood, the community of which he belongs.

      The community that he risked his life to become a member of and risks it further still by insisting on exposing the truth.

      1. “You say, you would have written a perfectly worded letter?”

        No, I did not say that at all. I would never write a letter to the mafia, lest it be an exercise in futility, unless I had the public limelight and wanted to show how these criminals are uncooperative. In that case I would try to paint myself in the best light possible which includes using proper grammar and etiquette.

        “The community that he risked his life to become a member of and risks it further still by insisting on exposing the truth.”

        That remains to be seen. I am not saying Mr Halbig is not what he claims to be, I simply have seen too many times in the last 13 years since 911 people who are projected to the front of the freedom movement and then claim publicly that they are Jesus Christ. So I reserve judgement until there is enough information for me to develop an opinion. I simply said I thought it was “interesting” that these emails were written so unprofessionally. That seems to be blasphemy to many of the commenters here. I sure am glad I didn’t question Edward Snowden or Appolonian would probably have my gnads between her teeth.

        1. Ho ho ho–fishy-fish, u just have a problem w. simple truth. “Un-professionally written”?–well, that’s matter of opinion, isn’t it?

          It just seems to me u TOTALLY miss it when u sympathize w. and excuse the satanists and oppressors and admonish the real patriots and heroes as I noted.

          I’d simply pt.-out Halbig’s ltrs were worded quite sufficiently to put across the necessary ideas, demanding the info which he has perfect right to doing, and perfect right to expect will be forth-coming, regardless ur pansy criticisms.

        2. “It just seems to me u TOTALLY miss it when u sympathize w. and excuse the satanists and oppressors and admonish the real patriots and heroes as I noted.”

          Yes, you have noted it three times and I still haven’t sympathized nor excused the oppressors and satanists, that is something of your manufacture.

          I’ll let this slide since you’re a newbie-I can tell. When I first woke up I was frantic too. Now I prefer to think before I jump.

        3. Apollonian,

          If I may. Your constant “ho ho ho,” name calling, and repetitive message is somewhat distracting. At least it is to me, anyway.

          At this point, I basically skim through your posts if I don’t ignore them all together. Something you may want to consider if your goal is to get your message read and understood by others.

        4. Maestro: continue to ignore my posts as it makes u feel better–u have my permission and blessings. I wouldn’t want to think I owe u too much, eh? Ho ho ho ho

        5. I always read apollonian’s comments. It requires paying attention and analyzing a wide variety of approaches to sort through this mess. (#crowdsourcing).

          I find apollonian is way ahead of most of us and able to be painfully blunt due to the level of acceptance with what is afoot.

          I don’t like where this research leads.

        6. Hey thanks, wondering: what I’m trying to do presently is to get us to GENERALIZE, using that INDUCTIVE LOGIC–esp. in way of placing Sandy Hook event in simplest perspective–it’s a BIG-LIE event/instance, u see, one of a series, like Boston Marathon, 9/11, and others too–u name it.

          Then, u see, it gets easier when u focus on BIG-LIE technique–it requires (a) huge chutzpah, nerve, gall, etc.–it’s total psy-ops sadism by absolute psychopaths upon the poor people who are so usually and typically caught flat-footed by events, coming upon things so often w. such pathetic bewilderment, u see.

          (b) The people are struck by the ENORMITY of the proposition, but they FEAR to conclude that the gov. is responsible–so they end up fooling themselves, telling themselves they MUST think this way as there’s “no way” the gov. would be so otherwise treacherous and ruthless–“they wouldn’t just LIE to us like that, would they?” they ask themselves in their childish manner.

          So u see, people will be best served by the sheer ECONOMY of concluding to this huge, BIG LYING being done by the powers. KEY to it all is the US Federal Reserve Bank (Fed) legalized COUNTERFEITING which funds/finances everything–which counterfeiting people don’t want to face-up to–it’s SOOOOOO simple; “nooooooooooooo,” people say to themselves, “it couldn’t be just as simple as that–legalized counterfeiting–there’s gotta be more to it.”

          There’s actually a good description and expo on this BIG-LIE technique at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Lie, where unc’ Adolf himself is quoted on the subject, along w. Goebbels and also Orwell, who called it “doublethink,” but “doublethink” is actually rather diff. manifestation.

        7. Lophatt, thanks for the affirmation. I sometimes get in battles with people and get mad & write something stupid-which I dwell on all day at work so thanks. I sometimes think I ought to lay off the comments section for a while.

    4. Fish, I agree. Nothing deflates your position worse than an inability to communicate. If he wants to be taken seriously he needs an editor.

      I also agree that we don’t need anyone “leading the charge”. I’m not looking for a “leader”. That’s what got us into this mess in the first place.

      If someone, “with an interest” was involved in a proceeding that could lead to good information and needed help, I might consider that. That would be extremely difficult in this situation, however.

  7. Mr. Halbig, Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch may be interested in your correspondence regarding Sandy Hook. He is currently in litigation with the NSA and has had some success. Some discovery from NSA would get Sandy Hook explained in no time! The NSA itself has suggested that its spying may come in handy in future lawsuits. Another place to forward your research and correspondence is the ACLU. They may be less busy now that Christmas season has passed and there are fewer Christmas trees to remove from schools and public places. You were threatened with incarceration by law enforcement officers for requesting information under FOIA. I think the ACLU would agree that this is a clear civil rights violation.

  8. Mr. Halbig and Dr. Tracy:

    Thank you for having the courage to raise all these questions.

    One point that might be a legal grounds to pursue is that a Judge ordered the 911 calls be released per a request from the AP. While all the headlines indicated they were released, what was actually heard was a lot of unprofessional dial tones and calls from 5 people. The 911 team of two had received national recognition for answering more than 150 calls per hour.

  9. Mr. Halbig is a hero and the more visible and noisy he becomes, the less likely the regime will go after him. He should immediately forward all his Sandy Hook research and correspondence to the least corrupt members of Congress and to the NRA.

    1. As a member of the NRA I support the decision not to touch this issue due to stigma associated with “conspiracy theorists” and “truthers”. This may lead to many of their political connections running for cover.

      The NRA has been relatively succesful in accepting the “official” narrative on Sandy Hook while offering an alternative to more firearms control.

      It is very frustrating but this is reality.

      1. If NRA’s position is “frustrating,” why do you accept it? 2014 is 1984 in America: the NRA, petrified of being branded a thought criminal and called names by Big Brother, capitulates and accepts lies as the new truth and Big Brother’s anti-gun hoaxes as the reality. Very sad indeed.

        1. Because I’ve learned to govern my passions; understanding the need for Democrats’ support.

          It’s called poltical calculus and NRA is second to none in this regard.

        2. M Brown, why are you here if your organization has no interest in finding out the truth about Sandy Hook and you support it? Are you really a member of the NRA or are you a troll?

        3. Yikes! We’re flanked on all sides. No wonder the folks at Sandy Hook are so cocky.

          From the article: “Will the NRA rally Americans to pick up arms to wage such a war, urging patriots into supporting another Israeli war of aggression—another step toward the New World Order?”

          Hmm… they could try…, but I doubt they’d get volunteers. Most are savvy enough to see the quagmire Iran poses and recognize “the enemy (Israel) of my enemy (Iran) is not my friend.”

          In fact, Iran isn’t even our enemy.

        4. Interesting the holding company that has purchased gun companies is a subsidiary of: Cerberus Capital Management, L.P.

          Cerberus /ˈsɜrbərəs/,[1] or Kerberos, (Greek form: Κέρβερος, [ˈkerberos])[2] in Greek and Roman mythology, is a bronze multi-headed (usually three-headed) dog, or “hellhound” [1][3][4] with a serpent’s tail, a mane of snakes, and a lion’s claws[5]. It guards the entrance of Hades to prevent those who entered from ever escaping.

  10. Here is another anomaly in the Sandy Hook school “shooting” scenario. We hear the fire alarm in the phone call recordings. These were likely triggered by gun smoke emitted during the drill. They would have gone off immediately. Why isn’t there a great big fire truck right in front of the school? The fire house is a few hundred yards away. Wouldn’t they have responded before anyone could tell them not to?

  11. Hello again~

    I feel this site is a fine public service. I understand that any service cannot be all things to all people at once, but it should nonetheless be dedicated to the truth. I am not concerned with slight error on the printed page. When people speak they also make -er- mistakes, so -um- what?

    Try publishing something like the above, with perfect spelling and grammar and punctuation on a place like Huffington Post.

    Or on OpEdNews. My problem with Mr. Jon Rappoport is that he has become an author there. OpEdNews like Huffington Post and myriad other sites are gatekeeping sites for centralized, authoritarian
    government, cheerleaders for modern technocracy and co-conspirators in organized crime. Mr Rappoport, like the Sandy Hook officials noted above has not responded to messages sent to him.

    Please, Mr Tracy, do not fold this site or become a co-conspirator.

    Thank you.

    Ned Lud

    1. Ric did it too. He wrote: “You beat me to the puchline.”

      Professor Tracy, please put in an editing feature on this blog. I see all my typos the second after I post my comments!

  12. Look, I don’t want to be a stick in the mud but:
    Those letters Wolfgang sent are very un-professional. Stay with me, not dogging someone on our side.
    They should have listed the FOIA Law then stated clearly what is being requested.
    There should have been no cursing,slang or derogartory statements.
    We need to look good and clean and precise or we will be ridiculed at every turn.
    There should be no Typo’s.
    Please no one jump me for this because this man has some clout and I want to help him as much as I can.

    1. I would also add that Jim Fetzer’s recent post on here was very sloppy and full of errors. It is important to present all information in a clean, professional manner if one expects to be taken seriously. No excuse for a news organization like VT not have proof read and edit.

    2. Agreed entirely. The noble warrior should have someone edit for him. I find the use of profanity in formal letters and all over the press unacceptable.

      1. Oh–and so that gives u the right to (theoretically) refuse to follow the law and not give out w. info u’re otherwise legally required to submit, eh?

        U find it “unacceptable”–but don’t and can’t say why–ho ho ho–typical, eh?

        1. Journalists are taught not to use profanity – standard of journalism schools. They’re also taught grammar or at least they used to be taught it but now TV and radio personalities show a lack thereof.

        2. Question is whether there’s excuse, as in Halbig’s e-mail, as u pt. out, NOT to comply w. the law and submit the info? How is it “unacceptable”?

        3. Having trouble understanding what you’re writing due to shortened initials but I think you mean it’s okay in this instance to use profanity? It only shows a lack of vocabulary. Look at the dictionary definition of bullshit and it says “vulgar slang” – nonsense, misleading and so on. There are lots of words that would better express how the agencies are deceptive instead of this overused, hackneyed word that just expresses primitive anger.

        4. Why so many posts about spelling and grammar errors in Mr. Halbig’s e-mails? These posts are silly and counterproductive. Instead, we should all be applauding Mr. Halbig’s courage and efforts. The bottom line is the right people got the e-mails, must have understood them, and are breaking the law by refusing to provide the requested information.

        5. Well Onslow, Marzi said it was “un-acceptable” to use well-understood words, and I was inquiring if Marzi thought this was valid pretext for not complying w. the law.

          Marzi then replied w. excuses for not answering the question and other irrelevant comments, we see.

        1. As I see it, Mr. Halbig is spearheading genuine action in our quest for answers. All of us are welcome to follow along, support it, and offer our most heartfelt opinions on how to best move forward. But this is no longer just an academic pursuit. Wolf is an existing threat to those in power. And power, we have witnessed, always justifies the end and cares little for the means.

          I hope that the team assembled to support Mr. Halbig is thinking outside the box. Do you honestly believe that Wolf will just walk into this CT burb and get bonafide answers to all his “simple” questions? Because the “law” says it is his right, as a citizen, to obtain them?

          For the sake of how this should turn out, I hope you are all recruiting the best people available to help Wolf get to truth in what will most certainly be a highly scrutinized, and perhaps bloody, battlefield. We all sense that America has lost something precious. And that is because there have been those individuals amongst us who have blatantly cheated other human beings.

          During my career, I was always taught to “plan the work”, then, and only then “work the plan”. With so much at stake for our future generations, have you come up with the best plan, at all levels, to arrive at the outcome you envision?

          My entire life experience leads me to conclude that what is about to transpire is not in my comfort zone. I would seek help from folks who share the mission plan, and cannot, under any circumstances, be corrupted.

          And the first thing I would do is raise money to cover the expenses for the campaign. If you do it right, and prove that none on the team will just simply walk away, then money should be the least of your concerns. Market the mission, share no details (so “they” don’t see you coming), and execute the plan. Tens of thousands of us want an opportunity to change the course of our history. It is our responsibility to leave the world in a better place. I think the first victory can be won in CT. If the plan is very smart.

      2. Do you support Wolfgang Halbig and what he’s trying to accomplish? Mr. Halbig’s comments resonate strongly with me and I may support him financially. I, too, wish he presented his correspondence more professionally.

        The reason I’m asking – you’ve seem to attract a person exhibiting a bit of a troll-like behavior and I’m curious at to why he/she’s being so annoying.

    3. Someone might find this interesting. Wolfgang Halbig wrote a book!

      Wolfgang is a nationally recognized school safety and security professional who has done extensive work in researching and developing the “Standards for Safe Schools”. He is an expert witness in the field of school safety and security. He has testified before a Congressional Commission studying school safety and security. Wolfgang was the former Executive Director of the National Institute for School and Workplace Safety. Wolfgang was also appointed by the Florida Governor to serve on the State of Florida Safe Schools Commission.

      Wolfgang is also the author of a book for educators and school bus drivers on aggressive behavior management and the use of reasonable force, as well as numerous magazine articles. His article on “Breaking the Code of Silence” was published in the March 2000 edition of the American School Board Journal. He has been a featured guest on many national news programs including Dateline NBC, Good Morning America, and MSNBC.

      Wolfgang was the Director of Safety and Security for a large public school system in Florida and brings to the company a national reputation in school safety, education and law enforcement. He has experience with U.S. Customs and as a Florida State Trooper. After leaving law enforcement, he went into education as a teacher, administrative leader, and finally Director of Safety and Security. His 35 years of work experience is a major asset to any involvement with safety and security.

      1. To date, Wolfgang is the most prolific source who has come forward concerning this Hoax. We need a national celebrity to come forward and also state that this event was a Hoax. Even though I place no faith or credence in celebrities, a plethora of regular folks do. The more on board with this being a Hoax, the merrier!

  13. It’s important to write letters of request without typos, grammatical errors and in a well formulated manner. We’ve all got the email addresses now. Perhaps we should all begin writing and asking for this information?!

    1. Could it be that Habig is lacking careful editing after using speech recognition software like Dragon? I entertaiined this possibility when reading his letters.

  14. From ctpost.comSinko was disciplined for “failure to carry his radio and failure to keep it on,” Kehoe said. But department sources said officers believe the disciplinary action would have been more severe were Sinko not friends with the chief and Capt. Joseph Rios, who conducted the internal affairs investigation.

    “People want to vomit,” one officer said.

    The discontent is so great, according to two sources, that the Newtown Police Union may take a no-confidence vote in the chief.
    http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Newtown-lieutenant-reprimanded-for-slow-Sandy-4807318.php

    1. Book 6 Doc – 00038691 Officer Figol was at the same private duty assignment as Sinko and yet she showed up

      1. Bill,
        Excellent point. He should have known regardless of his excuse of failing to maintain radio communication.

        1. Maybe he didn’t respond because he knew it was a drill and preferred to stay and clock hours with his off duty job??

          What a great defense that would be!!

    1. Indeed. And what right do they have to enter his home in the first place? Does he have to let them in?

    1. Kehoe HOPES (wishes) the exclamation pt.s will neatly close the case–but there’s still problem WHY they can’t give out w. the info–esp. when this info is sooooooooo probative–Kehoe can’t (refuses to even consider) figure it out.

  15. Did you know Kaitlin Roig said a gunman took her cellphone, and to date we cannot find any record of it having ever been found? It was pinged halfway between Sandy Hook School and Rocky Glen National Park–a large, densely forested, limited-ingress area which would have provided ideal cover for fleeing suspects. A citizen who trains search dogs was walking her dog near that park at approximately 10 a.m. when her dog “alerted” – she reported it to police, who dismissed it. To date, there is no record of Rocky Glen National Park ever having been searched, though the small isolated bridge into that park is on a direct, straight line between the school and the site of the phone ping.

    1. To whom did Kaitlin Roig supply this story? I remember watching her Diane Sawyer interview the first night. Don’t recall anything about a stolen phone. Do you have a link?

      1. Book 6 document 0003242 Trooper Christensen’s statement – Roig grabbed his arm and was upset because she thought the shooter took her phone

        1. So the Roig cell phone story is part of the official report. Did she mention any of this in her Diane Sawyer interview? I watched the whole thing when it aired initially, and don’t remember this topic coming up. Seems like it would have.

    2. Zephyr, I pretty sure the “offical report” says they found her phone straight up the hill in that church or old folks center right next to the fire staion. Something like that. But still too weird, the Gunman took her phone? Really? or whatever the line was, pure nonsense

      1. from my recollection they initiated a PING search and determined the phone was within 30 meters of the school. They searched a glass business on Riverside drive and did not find it there. I am unaware that they ever found it.

        1. So, she grabbed his arm. He didn’t shoot her but took her phone instead. Then he sprinted up the hill, dropped her phone, and ran back to finish his rampage? Then he shot himself. Sure!

  16. By golly, but if those birds up there in Connecticut don’t get a move on and comply w. lawful, reasonable requests for simple info, then people might begin to commence to start to suspecting criminal fraud, malfeasance, and obstruction, and gee whiz, but why would they do that?–unless Sandy Hook “event” was just a huge, large fraud in the first place?

  17. The shooter knew how to turn on the PA system. Andrea McCarren reported that Sally Cox said the shooter’s mother was a kindergarten teacher.. She did NOT report that Nancy Lanza was a kindergarten teacher. Would a kindergarten teacher’s son have a motive ?

    1. Bill,

      For you to continue to try to place any validity to the comments or interviews that the mainstream media conducted on December 14 and in the weeks and months to follow, is to play into the scripted muddle of disinfo that continues to pour out of the Oz-like Newtown community.

      Andrea McCarren, the reporter who made those comments, has refused from day one to engage in any explanation or discussion about her televised statement. If you listen carefully to the tape, she never mentions Sally Cox’s name. Sure, she claims that “she was the school nurse at Sandy Hook Elementary,” but nowhere does she name her.
      To pursue this Janet Vollmer angle and to push this theory that her son is “the killer” is to buy into the scripted fiction that there was a REAL shooter and actual victims.

      A more appropriate question for you to ask and pursue would be (as Mr. Halbig has asked Sally Cox in his letter to her) – “Why did you, a registered nurse who may have been able to help and SAVE A LIFE, stay in a closet for almost 4 hours?” Cox’s statement to that effect… that she spent almost 4 hours hiding in the closet, is just another one of the absurd statements made by the Sandy Hook players that continues to hang there… unaddressed and unquestioned… even though we have thousands and thousands of pages and hours of video of supposed “evidence” that something actually happened at SHES.

      Bill, it’s time to come around to the realization that Sandy Hook is one BIG LIE.

      1. Totally agree that the nurse in the closet story is hogwash (along with the rest of it). I object when fiction is so very poor as to make out a nurse to be a coward in a situation like that.

    2. Bill that story is super old. Please get caught up with the times. 100% of the readers on blog are aware of the McCarren story, I’m sure of it. Please keep your comments relevant to the article.

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