Oregon State Agencies, Community Colleges Host Numerous “Active Shooter” Drills

OregonDrills14Umpqua College Recipient of $2 Million Fed Grant, Features On-Campus Police Academy

From the Max Quigley Report w/ Editing, Graphics by MHB


Oregon did dress rehearsal “active shooter” drill last year at Central Oregon Community College:





The “shooter” was played by a police officer. He shot blank rounds and flash bangs to make it as realistic as possible.

More than 60 citizen volunteers participated as well. They played roles ranging from bystanders to victims.”

Roseburg Oregon is one of the prettiest places in America (or at least the rural valleys outside of the town looked that way last time I drove through the area a few years back). The hoax shooting was done there because it is shocking – not like 60 people shot in urban Chicago where gun control is the strictest in the nation.

Umpqua College its own police academy:


“The Academy is conducted in conjunction with the Douglas County Sheriff’s Department, Roseburg, Winston, Sutherlin, Myrtle Creek Police Departments, and Oregon State Police.” http://www.umpqua.edu/criminal-justice-career-technical/police-reserve-academy).

UCC Police Cadets Drilling on Campus

Umpqua College was also recently awarded a federal grant of $2.2 million. (https://www.umpqua.edu/college-news/433-ucc-to-receive-2-2-million-grant). That’s huge money for a small rural college.

Undoubtedly they will be getting millions more following the October 1 active shooter event.

Two weeks ago mass casualty drill held in nearby South Bend:



Another in Portland earlier this year came out with this 67 page “Player Guide” for the crisis actors :


https://www.portlandoregon.gov/pbem/article/532120 (pdf)


(You have to scream “real world!” in order for them to pause the scenario and help you)

Oregon hospitals train for ‘mass casualty’ events:




Umpqua College has nursing program too – and in mass casualty training events medical students are often required to be ‘volunteers’



Here (pdf) Oregon discusses their obsession with holding shooter drills after a Happy Valley mall shooting:



That mall shooting didn’t require any law enforcement to end – it was stopped by 1 citizen with a Conceal Carry permit – showing that “drills” and police response (after everyone has been shot) are not the solution. The solution is to have more armed citizens with conceal carry permits.


So put together and you have a campus that is going to get a lot of money, students in police and nursing willing to play along for jobs and benefits, and you ‘lock-down’ the rest of the students so they don’t know what is happening.

Another interesting story: “Teacher terrified by surprise ‘active shooter’ drill in eastern Oregon schoolhouse files federal lawsuit”

Elementary school teacher Linda McLean sat at her desk on a calm blue-sky Friday afternoon nearly two years ago when she heard the clatter of what sounded like a falling ladder, followed by running feet.

A man dressed in a black hoodie and goggles suddenly burst through her classroom door. He leveled a pistol at McLean’s face and pulled the trigger. The terrified teacher heard gunfire, smelled smoke, felt her heart racing, she says.

“You’re dead,” the gunman said, and stalked out of her room.

But McLean was alive. The hooded man’s gun was loaded with blanks, part of a surprise “active shooter” drill at Pine Eagle School District No. 61, a charter school in the tiny eastern Oregon town of Halfway. The gun-toting man was Shawn Thatcher, the school district’s safety officer.

McLean was a casualty of what she now describes in a federal lawsuit as a harebrained drill in the middle of an in-service day – April 26, 2013 – that has left her with post-traumatic stress disorder.

Link: http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/04/teacher_terrified_by_surprise.html

141 thoughts on “Oregon State Agencies, Community Colleges Host Numerous “Active Shooter” Drills”

  1. Harper Mercer was connected to the school’s theater. The hero in the Charleston case was an actor. The Mississippi college professor- shooter was an entertainer. Many of the Sandy Hook parents and players were actors and public speakers…

    Bad acting on many levels!

    1. But many people buy into it. IF you try to tell them it could be a drill they say that is crazy talk.
      S/H was so fake they are getting better with the details.

      1. Anne, if you think about it, some get angry over movies. They KNOW they are not real, but they identify so much with the players that they become emotional.

        Government agents, as well as screen writers, psychologists, marketing specialists (need I go on?), already know the mechanisms to create this and where those buttons are located. In fact, they may have assisted in placing those buttons in the first place.

        This is a nation that has been trained to watch sporting events and live their lives vicariously through their “heroes”. They enjoy “participation” which is defined as group think. They are neither amused or interested in anyone who threatens their illusion.

        “Crazy talk” is “frightening” talk. Given the choice most would knowingly elect to live a lie than suffer the insecurities engendered by dangerous knowledge. It’s sad, really.

        We’re like someone whispering “fire” in a theater. They are annoyed and want to re-immerse themselves in the film. The warning represents uncertainty and responsibility. The film represents safety and comfort.

        I suppose we know what we know. Our obligation is to share that information. What other responsible choice do we have? I doubt that any of us do this for the satisfaction we receive from doubters. There’s little to be done for it.

        1. Sharing the truth of these matters is a lot like sharing religion: almost no one wants to hear it, and the few that do are seeking it already. Really, all we can do is plant the seeds and let come what may.

        2. Yes, movie screens are instruments of mass hypnotism and the words of these drill actors are ingrained so that even if their acting ability is zilch people will believe them.

  2. Yes! This is all part of the huge militarization of the United States via FEDERAL GRANT MONEY to towns and schools and agencies that are all CORPORATIONS today. We no longer have representative government: our cities and towns and police departments, etc. are all incorporated and operate solely through contracts, doing commerce as any corporation does — that is, receiving, investing and spending money. These drills are training events necessary for the grant money offered by the federal government to local agencies and municipalities in the development of the America as a police state. Please learn more from this YouTube:


      So this guy is dead I take it?

      Otherwise why make someone shot

      Labor to breathe through cloth?

      And if dead why fold his hands on his

      stomach and would they stay there on

      a bumpy ride? Makes lil sense to me.

    2. Odd that you would link to Sinead McCarthy’s ‘work’ on your blog, Sofia, which I looked up while watching the above video. She’s about as half cocked disinformative as it gets, as far as I’ve seen.

    3. I looked up your blog as you suggest half way through the above video, and was surprised to find you linking to Sinead McCarthy’s ‘work.’ She’s about as disinformative and half cocked as it comes.

    4. Sofia, yes, as you well know, “the business of government IS government”. I feel I am uniquely qualified to confirm that, having spent over 45 years either directly involved with it as an official or contractor.

      While this has been an ongoing issue for many years, since the 9-11 operation it has noticeably worsened. Most are completely unaware of the extent or seriousness of these tactics.

      Realizing that the issues we see in the United States are largely just local incremental elements of a much larger puzzle, the methods used to influence these actions are not generally in public view.

      Through the use of “grants” and other agreements, all with various forms of funding attached to ensure local cooperation, the federal agencies and their handlers have wrested control of local governments from their constituents.

      As you say, these are “corporations”, however performance is measured in their success at advancing an overall plan, rather than returns on investor funding. It matters not where one lives, “your” local representative is engaged in a daily effort to chase these funding streams no matter the consequences.

      Many years ago, when I worked in California, I received a magazine called “Governing”. It was sent free of charge to government executives at all levels of government. It was a very slick publication. The graphics were arresting and entertaining, etc..

      The main purpose, however, was to share various scams perpetrated on the taxpayers from one state to another. Basically, what they were doing was advertising available grants and writing proposed legislation for use by representatives across the country.

      Unless one is involved with this, they will never become aware of it through their normal media. While they sit comfortably content that their government cares about and responds to their wishes, this outside assault continues and is the real motivator of local government.

      This is how things like “Agenda 21” are advanced. There is money available. This money requires compliance. Someone else writes the form that the compliance is to take. Is that not legislation by other means?

      The participation in these drills and the ever expanding police state are not unrelated. The control mechanisms are being put in place and the instruments of control trained to hear their master’s call.

      Thank you for sharing the video.

      1. Lophatt,

        It’s true. It’s all about the Money.

        If the Americans(Bleeding Heart liberals knew part of our 20 Trillion Dollar dept ( about 2 trillion since 2009) was wasted on Drills from every agency you can imagine would wake up we may have some hope.

        They won’t because it’s Their Guy. Sad.

        They have been “practicing” for 7 years around our country , violating the Constitution without a whimper from MSM.

        It’s 1932 Germany. And yes, they did then whole PC thing and morality things they are doing today, History repeats.

        1. Ric, I have to say its all about CONTROL. The “money” doesn’t mean much for a lot of reasons. It is actually valueless, other than the fact that people will exchange valuable things for it.

          The rich do not need more. They do not want anyone to have any. That is why we see these laws attempting to criminalize growing our own food or living off the grid.

          It’s about making us totally dependent. If we are totally dependent and they control the means to acquire our needs, we’re slaves. That is why the big push for electronic “money”. If you cause trouble they’ll simply throw your switch and you’ll starve.

          By creating the fiat currency they get things of real value as collateral on money they loaned that they didn’t possess in the first place. When you default, they grab your possessions. It’s like Johnny Cash’s “One Piece at a Time”. “…And it didn’t cost them a dime…”.

    5. Yes. But as Roxanne Dunbar Ortiz argues it has always been incorporated, and I agree. And BTW this kind of propaganda would be impossible if people had not spent decades watching very stupid programming on television. And in films.

  3. First, the federal grant money under obama admin seems to always force recipients into doing something against their ethics, ie Georgetown University (they say on their site that more than 50% of students get federal grants) w/their liberal speakers and student groups. The federal gov is a predatory lender in the worst and truest form.

    Second, the drills don’t require identifying tags to show it’s a drill—-which makes me think the footage on the news for the “real shootings” are ones taken during the said drills.

    Third, what are the odds that the Paris train hero is a student at Umpqua college? Astronomical imo .

    1. Not to mention the fact that the so called Chris Lintz Army vet “Hero” who supposedly stopped SEVEN rounds which broke both his legs,was caught on CNN news footage hanging out AFTER the event,entirely uninjured. The footage,btw,has since disappeared. I had it on my FB page and it just went away,yesterday.

      1. So I have to take your word for it? The Mintz story is huge in my mind because it is highly significant if his wounds are legit or not. Need more evidence than your word.

        1. Just Look at his smiling Face picture in the hospital that only shows his upper half that didn’t get hit with 7 bullets from an AR-15 (Obama’s favorite Gun).

          You said too me Really?

          I say too you: Really?

          7 Bullets and He kept coming to get the Gun. Like the Guys on Flight 93.

          Ding Dong.

          Don’t pay any heed to that man behind the curtain…..

          If your aware or awake you may be racist….unbelievable what we have let ourselves become via PC Alinsky tactics.

        2. How do you get to racist? That statement is incoherent. How do you know the picture you are referring to was taken after the shooting? I’m trying to determine the facts. You are letting your emotion compromise your objectivity. By the way, you misuse “too” there. Should be “to”.

        3. aha your right..too many “0”s.

          I didn’t mean anyone here is Racist or directing it at you or anyone else. I was just thinking how when ever anyone disagrees with the narrative they’re feeding us we get called racist.

          No Biggie.

        4. Hey, he “takes a lickin’ and keeps on tickin'”. After all, he’s a veteran!

          I’m just guessing here, but if both my legs were broken and I had suddenly developed lead poisoning, I doubt that I’d be hanging out “smokin’ and jokin'” with my bros while I waited for my ride to the ER.

          No, I’d be dialing up “Go Fund Me” and checking my new account. Then, after they wheeled me out of surgery I’d be making selfies and flashing gang signs. All the “veterans” do that.

          It’s a wonder he doesn’t have a cowboy hat and a flag. This guy’s got more holes than a garden sprinkler. Did I mention he was a veteran?

      2. Check out those surrounding the so called victim Chris, who doesn’t look drained at all after bionically stopping 7 bullets. The gurney is clean too for seven bullets – stage blood in a bag and no IV. Are they carrying colored story boards? They aren’t hospital personnel, who would be in uniforms.


      3. I just saw it on a youtube video – Anthony Antonello channel . I looked at it very closely , comparing ears, nose and although he’s not as tan as hospital pics ( footage on street looking well could be from the recent drill) , I believe it is him. Also the news report ON OREGON SHOOTING had footage that was clearly from Sandy Hook– even had a segment of the school sign!! So check out Anthony’s video

  4. The article about the COCC live shooter drill in the Bend Bulletin reads like virtually every other article I’ve read on the topic. Student volunteers who talk about the “adrenaline rush”, the Criminal Justice majors, and the realism of the drills (really?). They seem to use the same wording, even…if you’ve read one, you’ve read them all.

    Even the “news” in dinky local newsletters are supplied from a single source. How disheartening.

      1. That’s funny, they don’t look Italian. What a charming group shot. Looks like our bullet stopper hangs with a rough crowd.

        Not to worry, he’s going to be VERY popular with all that dough coming in from his donation sites. That’s the new normal. Before you dial 9-11, you call “Go Fund Me”.

        Now he’s up for a “Medal of Freedom”? Hey, why not. They gave Idi Obongo a Nobel Prize. He must have watch those “Terminator” movies. He’s hit in the legs, breaking both. But he keeps coming. Of course we’re to believe that deadeye who’s proficient at head shots suddenly decided to shoot his attacker in the legs.

        So here we have the old “Hook “Em Horns” out there just like in SHES. I guess its like a kid with a 4H uniform. “Hey, we’s the Kool Kidz”. And he’s a veteran. Wow! I’m a veteran. So are 98% of people my age. So what?

        I did learn one thing by being drafted into the Army. Don’t get shot. Of course all they were handing out were Purple Hearts, no charity donations at all. Times have changed.

        1. Lophatt
          I am a veteran also, don’t bother to thank me for “my service”.

          Like you say, so what!

          A colonel once told me, don’t expect a desk job just because you graduated from Florida State. You are going to nam and be the point man, your life expectancy is about 20 hours. I wouldn’t go to officer candidate school and he said you must have a yellow streak down your back.

          I said hey do your worst I am going to be in the army two years period and that is it. I ended up in Germany. Honestly the crazies there is why they did away with the draft. Those California boys were something else. They all had stereos and played Bob Dylan music.

          In It this little corporal used to side up to me on force marches and say, “dumb hog, I hope you die in nam.”

          The first sargeant was crazy, he survived Vietnam, made us paint the latrine once a week.

          “He once said look into my eyes dumb hogs, we are going to have a full combat infantry fire power demo this weekend, anti tank weapons, grenades and hand to hand combat. Do you know who they picked to lead the hand to hand?” They picked me 3948t9^&^%$###s because I am the baddest man in this army. I could take out all of you in about 1 minute without working up a sweat.”

          He came back one night from Philly drunk. At two oclock in the morning he brought out a flash light and would open the eyes of people sleeping and shine it on our eye balls. He got tired of that and screamed on your feet dumb hogs, attench hut.

          He said look into my eyes and you will see I have been drinking Johnny Walker Red Label scotch. I have been in Philly making the little women happy. Thank you for your indulgence. At ease.

          He then walked in to his little room and turned on his stereo with the record “I am a soul man.” as high as he could get the sound going.

          These memories are ingrained in my consciousness forever.

          Even the other DIs told us he was crazy, too much nam.

          This clown once was showing us how to pack a back pack. He said this is what the army says you need in it. Myself, when I went on patrol in nam, all I carried was a fifth of Johnny walker, a carton of cigarettes and 3000 rounds of ammunition.

        2. Mick, I can confirm your story. Mine is quite similar. Went to Germany too. Met lots of crazy f&*k’s. I see it as a two year interruption to my life.

          One thing I did learn from all that training. Don’t get shot. By the way, I had a stereo. I was playing Hendricks and Spooky Tooth.

          I’m afraid I never joined the arrested development set. I don’t have “specialty plates” or baseball caps with “Nam” emblazoned on the front.

          I’ll never forget what my father used to say. He was a WWII vet. Got drafted a year before the war and was there until a year after waiting to get home. “If they could do anything they wouldn’t be in the military”. Most profound thing he ever said.

          I never met a hero. I’m sure I’m not likely to meet one now since they don’t do the draft anymore. These guys actually volunteered. Heh, heh!

        3. I could go on with army stories forever. I was standing out front one day and this guy, he was from NY and of Puerto Rican descent gets off the bus with a suitcase. First thing he says to me was do you you want to buy some good stuff. I said no thanks.

          So one morning they call an alert. He gets in a one and one quarter ton truck and drives it through the CO’s wall. They sent him to the psychiatrist. When he came back we asked him what happened. He said he told the psyche, I don’t know, it is just that when I put on this green uniform it makes me do crazy things. He told him he wanted out of this man’s army. They psyche said well you just reupped for 2 more years about a month ago. He said I didn’t know what I was doing, I was on LSD at the time. The psyche said don’t worry son, we are going to get you out.

  5. Umpqua “HERO” connected to FEMA
    Whoever runs this channel does a phenomenal job of digging in records. Go from the new one NowTheTruthTV-8 down to 1. He/she keeps having to get new channels. AKA LivingonplanetZ and Vincent Moore. They have exposed Ruby Ridge, Waco and SO much more! There is a new one up for another one of the “vic-sims” also.

        1. I’m glad you understand the Ones, 1, are just as important as the Sixes 6 and the Nines 9 in their little game.

          Numbers and symbols have NO meaning. Only in the eyes of these people.

          “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.”

          That pretty much covers ALL symbols( fantasy and mystical). if you get my drift.

          I can’t even handle the Fish stickers and all that nonsense.

          If you need a rock or a fish or a symbol……

  6. “All this was inspired by the principle – which is quite true in itself – that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation.”- Adolph Hitler

    1. On the face of it, this [deception] might appear to have been an impossible undertaking. A great number of true accounts reached Western Europe and America, some of them from impeccable Western eyewitnesses…(in regards to the Soviet-engineered Famine in the Ukraine 1930-1933)

      But Stalin had a profound understanding of the possibilities of what Hitler approvingly calls the Big Lie. He knew that even though the truth may be readily available, the deceiver need not give up. He saw that flat denial on the one hand, and the injection into the pool of information of a corpus of positive falsehood on the other, were sufficient to confuse the issue for the passively instructed foreign audience, and to induce acceptance of the Stalinist version by those actively seeking to be deceived. (Robert Conquest)

      (West, “American Betrayal” p. 100)

      1. Conquest is a liar. There was never a ‘Sovjet engineered’ starvation. One deliberate act to cause it however was the work of the angloamericans who started a goldblockade(!) against the Ussr. The angloamericans refusing to accept payment other than in grain(!) for machines needed to industrialize in preparation for an expected western assault – Stalin predicted in 1930 that they would be attacked in a decade. They took a chance that there would be no draught but were out of luck. The alternative would have been a delay in the buildup of the defense and they still lost 27 millions in the war. Had they lost the war, a hundred million of them would have been deported(or worse!) to provide ‘lebensraum’ for britains stooge and admirer Adolf and his thousand year reich.
        Before WWI Tsarrussia was struggling to modernize the very oldfashioned farming and let bigger units be formed privately owned, hoping in the spirit of liberal capitalism that they would invest in modern methods but instead they just lowered the wages. This fuelled the revolutionary fervor of the opposition and helped the angloamerican special operation known as the bolshevik revolution. After the partly fake war of intervention by twenty countries the war ravaged country under Stalin was still struggling with the previously mentioned kulaks who became terrorists in connection with the collectivization. Ussr badly needed factory workers and more efficient modern farming.
        The Sovjets had no obvious way out!

      2. Uh no. Hitler was disapprovingly describing jewish communists and internationalists.

        That is a shortened version of the quote where he described the sabatoge by the jewish newspapers that undermined the WW I war effort.

        And to the commenter below…

        The jewish bolshevik communist USSR did in fact deliberately starve christian russia. Holodomor. Germany knew what awaited them.

        The world knew what the soviets were doing. FDR was the first to recognize that mass murdering regime.

        The criminal NWO you live under are the descendants of the perpetrators of the most bloody century known to man.

        They are european whites (davos men). They are jewish too. And no, they are certainly not fascists or nazis.

        Communism is world conquest. That is what you see at work. Or did you fall for the ‘Perestroika Deception’?

        Google Anatoly Golitzen. Tyler Kent. Harry Dexter White. General Alfred Wedemeyer. Amongst others.

        1. Dave
          You havent got it right. Communism has been upheld all the time by those who also were FDRs handlers.
          One source of interest for background is Ioan Ratiu’s The Milner Fabian Conspiracy(2012).
          Communism in the sense you figure it never existed. It was a tool for the angloamerican elites coralling of the peoples by obliterating their national independence in the march to tyrannical angloamerican world government – so called.
          As communism nearly got loose under Stalin emphasis became ‘socialism in one country’ not the angloamerican stooge Trotsky’s world revolution.
          The cold war happened because Stalin refused to sign the Bretton Woods.
          Stalin’s gold rouble backed trade zone having invited many capitalist countries became a threat to the angloamerican moneypower so they murdered him.
          And you havent refuted the facts I mentioned, you just stubbornly cling to Hitler, whose ideology and outlook was of Britains make.
          They found in Hitler someone reckless enough to carry out the bidding of Houston Stewart Chamberlain. And the british financial elites artificially created the apparent economic miracle so the germans would see him as a saviour. This was a prerequsite for the preplanned later demonizing of the victimized german people.

    2. It always amazes me how people quote Hitler out of context and then someone says that Hitler “approvingly” said this of lying propaganda. Here is the entire quote with some commentary which clears up this whole mess…

      In Mein Kampf, Hitler wrote:

      But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists, to impute responsibility for the downfall [of Germany in WWI] precisely to the man who alone had shown a superhuman will and energy in his effort to prevent the catastrophe which he had foreseen and to save the nation from that hour of complete overthrow and shame. By placing responsibility for the loss of the world war on the shoulders of Ludendorff they took away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betrayers of the Fatherland to Justice. All this was inspired by the principle -- which is quite true in itself -- that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily, and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These people know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest purposes.
      From time immemorial, however, the Jews have known better than any others how falsehood and calumny can be exploited. Is not their very existence founded on one great lie, namely, that they are a religious community, whereas in reality they are a race? And what a race! One of the greatest thinkers that mankind has produced has branded the Jews for all time with a statement which is profoundly and exactly true. He (Schopenhauer) called the Jew "The Great Master of Lies." Those who do not realize the truth of that statement, or do not wish to believe it, will never be able to lend a hand in helping Truth to prevail.

      Clearly, Hitler is not advocating the use of the “Big Lie,” and, far from creating it, he in fact is ascribing the “Big Lie” technique to the Jews and Marxists. The “Big Lie” technique is Hitler’s in the same fashion that Halley’s Comet is Halley’s — not because either man was the inventor, but rather because he was the discoverer.


      1. If Hitler did not believe in mass deception then why did he blame the Reichstag fire on enemies of the state? Why have a professional communications Ph.D. in communications, and professional muckraker, as your minister of information:

        Hitler in 1923: “The German people consists for one third of heroes, for another third, of cowards, while the rest are traitors” (Hitler’s Speeches, ed. Baynes, p. 76).

        Goebbels in 1934: “Who are the people to criticize? Party members? No. The rest of the German people? They should consider themselves lucky to still be alive.

        All death cults whether German, American, Russian or Chinese will eventually descend into democide by virtue of contempt for the very population they over which they rule. Their Nietzschean “superiority of contempt” gives them an inherent right to lie to the cattle.

  7. US-American violence and brutality is increasing in both domestic and foreign policy. The commanding American general stated that the bombing of the hospital in Kunduz, Afghanistan, run by Doctors Without Borders, was deliberate.

    Although the bombing of medical installations and people by the US military has been routine since Vietnam, it has never been openly admitted and justified in the American media. This is a new anti-people escalation as Washington loses world power, the American powerful not caring what the world thinks, and now trying to shape American opinion to justify increased violence against the powerless.

  8. Regional Hospital was not involved. It was the local Mercy Medical Center that has four general surgeons on staff and six orthopedic. It is a level 3 trauma center; there is no neuro surgeon on staff. Their job would be to stablize and transfer to a higher level of care. Three were transferred to Eugene-area hospitals.



    Jason Gray, MD | Anesthesiology

    Interesting his name does not come up when searching Internal Medicine http://www.architravehealth.com/find-a-provider/?page=specialty&full=9
    I have never seen an anesthesiologist in the Medical Director position.


    Dr. Haans Notenboom, co-medical director for PeaceHealth Sacred Heart Medical Center at RiverBend in Springfield



    Interesting, I do not see Notenboom

    The Mercy MC doctors associated with Architrave Health, LLC; Mercy Medical Center and Douglas County Individual Practice Association (“DCIPA”) working together to manage health care in Douglas County to ensure that the current and future health care needs of the community are met.


    Dr. Scott Russi Trauma Surgeon



    I found the phony doctors in the Marysville, WA shooting and I knew we were dealing with a fraud when Providence Regional Medical Center Everett, WA chief medical officer, Dr. Roberts, stated that they sent one of the less serious injured boys to Harborview because they thought Harborview could handle it. LOL Harborview is the Level 1 trauma center and this fool was speaking from a level 2 trauma center that did not even have a pediatric ICU and the phony 14 year old victims they cared for suffered phony deaths.


    Now only cache link http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:WLiknG6A2m4J:https://www.wsha.org/hospitalDetail.cfm%3FHID%3D34+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    Pattern is the doctors are usually frauds with fictitious names and falsely credentialed by the corrupt state of the moment.

    For example, here are a couple of the clowns Massachusetts General Hospital used for the Boston BS.


    This is beyond shameful and straight up tyranny. Our medical community can no longer be trusted; they are helping the government to terrorize and defraud the population and if not by direct involvement then by their silence; they know when a fraud is play acting a doctor but apparently they know if they open their mouths they will no longer practice medicine. The leadership and parent companies at the various medical institutions now qualify as terrorist cells.

    Rand O’Leary, our President of Hospital Services

    He is fairly new!!

    How nice he had a get together with the Governor just a couple of weeks ago. https://www.facebook.com/PeaceHealthOregon/photos/a.360738980611360.92424.222948124390447/1075728189112432/?type=3&theater

  9. I’ll never forget the importance of the phrase “is this real world or exercise” as it pertained to 9/11. I believe that was the response from NEADS in Rome, NY (NorthEast Air Defense Sector…then part of NORAD).

    Michael Ruppert exposed the litany of overlapping drills active on that day in his book Crossing the Rubicon.

    As for the Clackamas shooting, I was in that mall the day it happened. I ate with my band in the food court and we moved on down the road to continue our tour. Wasn’t it the day before Sandy Hook? Might even have been the same day.

    Sandy Hook I will never forget because that was the big one (and it happened on my birthday). Like I said, the Clackamas shooting was on such a small scale that I don’t remember the details, but the Newtown shooting made a huge impression on me. It was precisely because it overshadowed my birthday that I decided to research it as much as I did. As we drove on the icy highways of Utah and Wyoming I followed the incoherent details which emerged that day.

    Incidentally, I researched 9/11 even more so because of my empathy for the folks in those towers. More precisely, because I have a fear of heights I empathized more strongly with their horribly cruel deaths. A similar sentiment had gripped me when OKC was bombed. The Murrah building seemed tall until 9/11.

    In any case, it’s interesting psychology to examine why we’re drawn to these mysterious events and why we risk our current safety in hopes of investing (through courage) in a better future. –Paul

    1. You are one of the first people I heard to express something I have felt in these episodes: empathy, leading you to dig deeper and find out the true circumstances. I am sure many people who watch these events are moved by empathy, but how far do they their interest is the question. No very, most of them, and that is what perps count on. If it’s just a moment of shock, then on they go, hoping to be massaged into comfort by the MSM, whose role is to present the solution that has been waiting in the wings. Once they receive the marching orders, they settle back down into forgetting about their initial pain and distress. But some of us do not leave it at “Okay, now we can turn the Mideast sand to glass, now we have permission for revenge.”

      And we find out that there are other psyops out there, including the anthrax which was exploited in a fashion I found quite obvious.

      But yes, there was a hook originally, which was so painful the way it gripped some of us, that it could not be massaged away and had to be confronted.

      1. You are so right. It is like all great crimes. It is for those who live on to honor the memory of the dead. Only truth will honor them. If their legacy is one of mere pawns, then humanity has done them a grave disservice. I will never stop talking about 9/11. It was the embodiment of Orson Welles’ message in his last film F for Fake. 9/11 was geopolitical sleight of hand. Whoever pulled it off opened a Pandora’s Box of curiosity which will never close. Now everyday citizens want to know about the NSA, CFR, NRO… Somebody’s grand plan backfired because it made lifetime skeptics of a generation. What that generation accomplished might determine the fate of humanity in the final techno-dehumanization now in progress.

  10. Oregon community college shooting seems to line up with Obama’s quote – “And it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations,” Kills 2 birds with one stone.

  11. Huge coverage in the New York Times Sunday on the front page and three additional full pages (plus two editorials). As always, the Times is codifying the story – and there are several items right out of the Sandy Hook playbook:


    Here, we see that many of us might be considered to fit the mass-murderer profile:


    We need tougher gun laws:


    “How They Got Their Guns” – nice big photos here of the guns used by all the fake killers:


    1. What an odd thing to say. I read the whole article, and nothing in it bears any resemblance to the form of law that prevails in the United States (or anywhere else in the world.) Weird.

      1. Now the Government Can Legally Kill Christians
        Bill Dannemeyer
        U.S. Congressman, 1979-1992

              Your U.S. government can now legally kill Christians for the “crime” of worshipping Jesus Christ!  A diabolic deception has been perpetrated on the American people by their OWN leaders, Senators and Congressmen, who have sold their soul to the devil.  On March 5, 1991, in the House of Representatives, and March 7, 1991, in the U.S. Senate, without any knowledge of, or input by, the people of the United States, U.S. Senators and Congressmen passed a law that is so outrageous – and frankly unconstitutional – that it forces the American people to be bound by a set of monstrous rules, called the Noahide Laws, rules that make the belief in Jesus Christ a crime punishable by decapitation by guillotine!  On March 20, 1991, President George H.W. Bush, a supposed Christian, signed the bill into law.
              Before you respond, “NO, that cannot be – not in our free country!” let me explain.
              The passage of this law, HJ Res. 104, is especially troublesome to me because I was a member of the U.S. House of Representatives at the time it was passed.  Even worse, I was in the House Chamber the very day that is was passed, voting on other legislation.  Yet I, as a U.S. Congressman, had NO KNOWLEDGE that it had been passed or even that it was to be brought up for a vote.

        Definitely read the full article written by the former Congressman…


        1. Don’t know what’s up with the formatting problem, but here is the text posted above…

          Bill Dannemeyer
          U.S. Congressman, 1979-1992

                Your U.S. government can now legally kill Christians for the “crime” of worshipping Jesus Christ!  A diabolic deception has been perpetrated on the American people by their OWN leaders, Senators and Congressmen, who have sold their soul to the devil.  On March 5, 1991, in the House of Representatives, and March 7, 1991, in the U.S. Senate, without any knowledge of, or input by, the people of the United States, U.S. Senators and Congressmen passed a law that is so outrageous – and frankly unconstitutional – that it forces the American people to be bound by a set of monstrous rules, called the Noahide Laws, rules that make the belief in Jesus Christ a crime punishable by decapitation by guillotine!  On March 20, 1991, President George H.W. Bush, a supposed Christian, signed the bill into law.
                Before you respond, “NO, that cannot be – not in our free country!” let me explain.
                The passage of this law, HJ Res. 104, is especially troublesome to me because I was a member of the U.S. House of Representatives at the time it was passed.  Even worse, I was in the House Chamber the very day that is was passed, voting on other legislation.  Yet I, as a U.S. Congressman, had NO KNOWLEDGE that it had been passed or even that it was to be brought up for a vote.
        2. You actually have to take it out to a word processing app to get it in unformatted text:

          THX quotes:
          Your U.S. government can now legally kill Christians for the “crime” of worshipping Jesus Christ! A diabolic deception has been perpetrated on the American people by their OWN leaders, Senators and Congressmen, who have sold their soul to the devil. On March 5, 1991, in the House of Representatives, and March 7, 1991, in the U.S. Senate, without any knowledge of, or input by, the people of the United States, U.S. Senators and Congressmen passed a law that is so outrageous – and frankly unconstitutional – that it forces the American people to be bound by a set of monstrous rules, called the Noahide Laws, rules that make the belief in Jesus Christ a crime punishable by decapitation by guillotine! On March 20, 1991, President George H.W. Bush, a supposed Christian, signed the bill into law.

            Before you respond, “NO, that cannot be – not in our free country!” let me explain.
            The passage of this law, HJ Res. 104, is especially troublesome to me because I was a member of the U.S. House of Representatives at the time it was passed.  Even worse, I was in the House Chamber the very day that is was passed, voting on other legislation.  Yet I, as a U.S. Congressman, had NO KNOWLEDGE that it had been passed or even that it was to be brought up for a vote.
        3. Dang!

          THX continues quoting:

          Before you respond, “NO, that cannot be – not in our free country!” let me explain.

          The passage of this law, HJ Res. 104, is especially troublesome to me because I was a member of the U.S. House of Representatives at the time it was passed. Even worse, I was in the House Chamber the very day that is was passed, voting on other legislation. Yet I, as a U.S. Congressman, had NO KNOWLEDGE that it had been passed or even that it was to be brought up for a vote.

        4. Until about 1978, in Missouri you could legally kill a Mormon and take all his stuff. This from Executive Order 44, passed way back in the 1830s.

          Toni: Are you still politically active, or are you so disillusioned you can’t stand it anymore? Were you as aware when you were a Rep as you are now? Do you hold out any hope at all for our political system? In your opinion, is my complete disregard for said political system justified? Inquiring minds and all that ?…

        5. Alright, smarty. You could have meant replicant or reptilian or something.


          Republican. Got it. Just making sure. Can’t be too careful.

          Give me a minute…

        6. Recynd,

          I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the Republican party.

          Maybe you can explain how you came to think I was. 🙂

          Most of my life, I’ve been somewhere to the left of Gandhi. When I was very young, I had an fervent sense of justice and an empathy for earthpeople, as romanticists like to imagine others. I thought everything was on the edge of changing, of becoming better. Why wouldn’t I? I had been targeted for cultural propaganda that told me I was at the forefront of a New World. My generation would be the herald of a New Age.

          JFK, CIA, RFK, MLK, Kent State, Watergate – a nursery rhyme of supremely alienating deep events battered the collective. We all agreed when we heard that the line had been drawn, and the curse it was cast.

          With the old order rapidly fading, the counterculture was a place you could go. Back to the land and away from political engagement. I think people were kept marginalized there, while power consolidated itself elsewhere. Music and drugs – I can’t regret them entirely. The road to excess etc etc, and the songs of experience that informed our friendships endure to this day. With prudence, it wasn’t all bad, had we but world enough and time. Which in retrospect, we hadn’t.

          Then as now, the CIA kept everyone in illegal drugs. Except for marijuana. Once people started growing cannabis, an honest economy was established underground. The grower community, emphasizing loyalty to personal relations, freely shared their expertise and the genetic material they had protected during prohibition.

          Then they birthed the Medical Marijuana Movement, a semi-legal sphere which growers used to spur cannabis science and the innovation of horticultural technique. They raised potency, assured purity, lowered prices, and got medicinal relief to sick people who had never used marijuana before, all while maintaining a safer outlet for regular cannabis users, and pushing back on police repression. They built a body of medical knowledge that led to the discovery of the ednocannabinoid system that modulates near every physiological process in the body.

          (Read more about the science of cannabis here: http://cornerstonecollective.com/blogpage/
          and its connection to ADHD here:

          In good old dialectical fashion, TPTB reveal their hypocrisy to the alienated because they don’t want us to identify with our country. Duly estranged, I was witness to the transformational rise of a self-regulated community forged on local personal relationships and good will. Circumscribed in its own semi-underground, protected from government intrusion and corporate predators, it thrived. You might say it was an example of the American System.

          I don’t think I’ve moved from left to right. I think, having departed the left/right continuum, I carry them both with me.

        7. Toni: Thank you for your long and thoughtful response; however, I never accused you of being a REPUBLICAN, but was referring to you saying you were a member of the US House of Representatives (that’s what I shortened to “Rep”). No matter, your response was a good one. In fact, you would probably get along famously with my boss (though I work very little these days), an attorney who spent most of the 60s in Santa Cruz (UCSC) and Davis (UCD), and some of that time in a treehouse. He recently was lamenting his currently solitary life, having enjoyed his communal years.

          Though we come from different places (I was always a rightie, politically, mostly because I cared more about gun rights than drug rights, and because I hated the idea of government handling welfare. Now, like you, I’m out of that paradigm altogether. I see how all of these elements work together, how corrupt the government is, and how the powerful works to oppress the weak.

          I will respond more when I move to my computer (rather than my cellphone).

        8. We little people are supposed to be protected from “laws” like this one by the Doctrine of Interposition, which states (generally) that each level of government, from highest to lowest (most local), is responsible for upholding the Constitution and protecting those under him/her from any violations thereof. This means that there should be more than adequate protections for an individual citizen. Ha!

          A lot of good this doctrine does when so many damned “laws” are passed that no one (or anyone) can keep track of them. How the hell can we protect ourselves by such skullduggery (to borrow a term from the instant article)?

        9. This is to THX:

          adjective: sane; comparative adjective: saner; superlative adjective: sanest

          (of a person) of sound mind; not mad or mentally ill.


        10. It says no such thing.

          Are you suggesting that a resolution that says “Congress recognizes the historical tradition of ethical values and principles…” is in fact AN ENACTMENT of those “values and principles”? That this vague language has the power, indeed was intended to, REPLACE the entire body of American law?

          If that’s what you are suggesting, I think you need to take it up with your psychiatrist.

        11. Toni, you were quoting Bill Dannemeyer
          U.S. Congressman, 1979-1992 but forgot to put ” ” around as I did once…….haha

          She thought it was you saying “The passage of this law, HJ Res. 104, is especially troublesome to me because I was a member of the U.S. House of Representatives at the time”

          That Simple.

        12. See why quotations are so important, Ric? lolling

          Recynd, Ric noticed something that I didn’t. I made several assumptions that were incorrect, and now you have my political bio. I apologize.

          And thank you, Ric, for telling me. I appreciate it.

          I’m going to withdraw now.

        13. “and now you have my political bio”

          Yes we do, Now we can do this the easy way and you cooperate or we can do this the Hard way.

          First, “would you like a cigarette before we start Comrade?”

          Haha, Just kidding

          And, you don’t need to withdraw now..I haven’t ..haha

          All Good.

        14. Haha…

          “I deny everything!
          Get that light out of my eyes!”


          “All right, can we make a deal? I can give you a name from over at MHB. There’s this guy, calls himself Ric. Real troublemaker. Always in moderation.” haha

        15. Haha, you just sold me out….

          I thought when we both signed up to the New World Odor and we were a Team..HAHAHA

          I love it when people here have fun. I’m the class clown but when Lophatt decides to be funny he takes the cake.

          I do believe the next fad coming from the “Runway” will be Pretty Dresses with Body Armor…HaHa

        16. Wait a minute, I sold you out because I knew it was you behind the lights interrogating me, and I was letting you know that I knew that you knew that I knew etc etc Upshot – we are a Team!

          Yeah, you’re pretty funny and Lophatt’s funny, too. Remember that time he told you you’re the only person that can slur your words in print? He kills me.

        17. As Regan said: “There you go again”…

          Was that directed at me?

          Lophatt, I’m heading to Oregon for a Bonafide old fashion Duel.

          You count to 3, I count to 2.

          Like the Fifth Element.

        18. Was THIS directed at ME?

          Don’t get me confused again lol; I can’t take it anymore. I spent all day answering a question no one asked.

        19. I liked your answer, Toni…I like getting to know people on this forum. I appreciate knowing where people came from, and it’s comforting to know that I’m not traveling the direction I’m headed in by myself.

          If only more people IRL (in real life) could enjoy the camaraderie we have here. I know cohesive groups exist, but are few and far between, and they don’t (usually) last very long.

          Anyway, Toni, should every misunderstanding have such a fruitful outcome!

        20. It is amazing how hard it is to articulate a thought much less an emotion thru texting.

          I was kidding and went after Lophatt..All good Fun

  12. DublinsMick, I can’t find the posts you wrote where you mention the letter written by the Oregon Sheriff in 2013 criticizing the politicization of gun control, so I’m posting this here.

    What I didn’t realize is that that Sheriff is the SAME Sheriff John Hanlin who has been in charge of the Roseburg investigation, (the one who insists that the shooter should remain “un-named”).

    Now this morning, the anti-gun Brady organization is calling for him to immediately step down because of his “previous views” on gun control. They say,”his “extremist” views on gun rights call into question his ability to conduct a fair investigation of last week’s mass shootings at Umpqua Community College.”

    Poor guy. He speaks up and they run the next game in his jurisdiction.


      1. Toni–great catch. Truly mind blowing. It’s good to have confirmation that seeds are being spread.

        People WILL wake up. Just a day late and a dollar short.

        1. If Sheriff Hanlin is forced off the Roseburg case, I would urge him to take his own advice about Sandy Hook, and “Watch, listen, and keep an open mind” about the “mass-shooting” that took place in his own county.

          Then he should be our hero and speak out again, like he did in his letter to Biden.

          Sheriff John Hanlin, Inside Man

          (Biden must have turned that letter over to the Intelligence Services. Nice.)

        2. We should keep an eye on Hanlin (I’m going to set up a Google alert on him, fwiw). It’ll be interesting to see what may (or, hopefully, may not) happen to him.

        3. I hope it’s nothing tragic happens to him!

          Hanlin should be pissed if they played him like this.

          It’s enough to radicalize a person.

      2. Yes comrade, it is no longer possible to have opinions contrary to the party’s. That would make you an “extremist”. I’ve been hearing a lot about “extremists” lately. It is the new “terrorist”.

        Anyone who won’t buy their swill is an “extremist”. We all know what happens to them.

  13. This 36 min. long but loaded with New info tying SHE, Honr Network, CW Wade and a Monroe Police officer around the Oregon College shooting!

    Even an event that happened to Infowars reporter Dan at the Halbig FOIA hearings involving CW Wade.

    Ducks Galore.

    1. Good find, Ric. They are toying with us. He’s spot on about the websites he mentions too. The duck thing is truly bizarre. He’s certainly right that C.W. Wade would have no way to know the alleged number of victims before hand unless he had insider knowledge of the drill.

      1. If this situation was reversed the FBI would bring CW Wade in for questioning, But being this is all a part of DHS which includes the FBI CW will probably get a High Five instead of a water boarding like the rest of us,

        I hope Dan can find a way to indict him. He (CW) obviously had prior knowledge of the Oregon shootings. But I guess the FBI did too. haha

        1. Yeah, he’ll get another petal on his achievement daisy. They like to do things like this. Its a way of rubbing our noses in it.

  14. John Hanlin is a Zionist agent
    I’m not posting this as fact. I don’t know that much about numbers but Zachary K Hubbard is very good at it.

    1. John Hanlin is a Zionist agent if you believe that adding up the letters/numbers of your name determines your ideology.

      I think Zachary K. Hubbard is the shill.

  15. “The relationship between Laurel Harper and her son has eerie similarities to that of Nancy Lanza and her son, Sandy Hook Elementary School gunman Adam Lanza, Before Lanza, who also had Asperger’s syndrome, went to the Newtown, Connecticut, elementary school in 2012, he used one of his mother’s guns and fatally shot her while she slept. According to the New York Times and reports compiled after the shooting, Nancy Lanza was also a gun enthusisast and took Adam to the gun range.”


    The father is also a military man per the article.

  16. Do people have a sense of what happened in hoax terms? Was it a complete hoax, or was there some partial black op executed which left some real victims even as it was orchestrated? What’s with the reaction by the Oregon police and anti-Obama locals?

    1. RedSilverJ think the entire John Hanlin storyline is part of the psy op:

      When Andreas Lubitz’ friends (guy who crashed the german plane) started an FB page which claimed he’d been framed, it was almost certainly part of the psy op, designed to portray ‘mental illness’ as something that could be hidden from intimates.

        1. Yes, absolutely. I don’t know why anyone is surprised. They have come right out and said that they were going to be using tactics to sway public opinion. What better explanation for this than that?

          They are at a point in the Grand Plan where they have to disarm us. Obongo has his orders. Isn’t it amazing that very few find the sheer number of these hoaxes or the narratives strange?

          When they announced that they would be lying to us as a regular part of their efforts to manipulate us, I expects something slick. These things have been crude and obvious.

          The endgame here is to label anyone who challenges their manipulation as “extremists”. The implication is that “extremist” = “dangerous”. Dangerous = terrorist, and the whole panoply of unconstitutional laws and precedents can be marshaled to make an example of the miscreants.

          The rhetoric is heating up. They are calling the NRA a “terror organization”. Think about that. The logic is nonexistent. I’m not surprised at them doing this, I’m surprised at people’s willingness to go along with it.

          There is an ever-increasing gulf between the people who still believe in Constitutional laws and principles, and these mindless followers. There was a time when this approach wouldn’t have stood a chance.

          So they stage a hoax, create phony “victims”, create phony organizations, pretend that these organizations represent the populace and use them as an excuse to disarm the population.

          The only thing that stops these psychopaths is fear. At the moment they think they have the world by the ass and it’s rodeo time. Our only hope is to totally ignore them. I’ve already resolved that they mean nothing to me.

          We each in our own way are going to have to determine for ourselves how much we will cooperate with our enslavement. Every time we ask them for assistance we bolster their egos. Power depends on cooperation. Whether that is out of respect or fear, nobody controls anyone unless they allow it.

          Collectively this whole self-serving conglomeration of pond scum wouldn’t make pimple on the ass of time. It’s time to treat them like they deserve to be treated. They’ve earned it.

        2. The MSM never told the people what was happening and how bad this new law Obama passed was.Much less that a President can make or change a law.

          Our First Black President……instead of uniting us, they used this as a weapon to destroy us.

      1. Well, redsilverjay, all I gotta say is, isn’t it more likely that they targeted Sheriff Hanlin by running a game on his turf to punish him for expressing anti-shooter event views, than it is that he’s going along with the false narrative in order to discredit same?

        The shooter’s mother is now being targeted for expressing her gun views. Maybe they were both chosen to unwillingly participate in this event. along with the “mentally ill/autistic/unsociable” or whatever-they’re-calling-him-now shooter,

        redsilverjay offers no reasoning behind his assertions in this video, and I think his intuition is off this time.

        1. Why Toni? I haven’t had time to study this one. Seems like a brilliant turn to me to guilt the ‘conspiracy theorists,’ just as they’re using the copycat concept to try to guilt Congress into supporting Murphy’s bill. The copycat accusation also seems to solve the problem of why these incidents are happening at such a heightened rate.

    2. I wish I had more time to elaborate, but I’ve been putting off chiming in for too long, waiting for more information to come in from local sources. Hopefully I’ll have more time later to add details. I live in Douglas County, Oregon where the shooting occurred, and have kids who are college age who have friends who attend UCC. I have another friend who personally knew two of the deceased victims.

      During the course of that day, the students’ accounts were very different from the media reports. They were texting each other and posting on FB. The kids who believed that there were two shooters in two separate buildings. There were rumors of victims who were not in the classroom, as well. Not all the phones were confiscated, apparently. I’d be curious to know how they determined which phones to confiscated.

      I personally don’t believe Sandy Hook had real deaths, but I don’t see how they could have faked these deaths. These people are older, they have real ties here, they aren’t part of a liberal agenda, and in fact, attendees been asked to wear camouflage to Rebecka Carnes’ funeral because it’s hunting season and she was a hunter.

      I’ve determined that we have a media account that doesn’t match reality, and a mass shooting that had real victims.

      1. Thanks for the report Lindy. I’ve said, repeatedly, that whether anyone was actually shot or not is not the defining characteristic of a hoax.

        That said, unless you’ve seen an actual dead body or you are absolutely certain that someone was shot, I would be careful.

        I have it on pretty good authority that our “hero”, Chris Mintz, was in the hospital for hernia surgery. That could account for the fact that someone captured him on video standing around talking to others (with two broken legs).

        But, everyone is free to think what they will. I do not think anyone can deny the use of the incident. Remember, the media coverage is a constituent part of the drill.

  17. Another person connected to the Oregon shooting has been targeted for remarks she made on social media.

    The Oregon shooter’s mother is now a subject of the shooting investigation. She made positive comments about guns on social media.

    Like Sheriff Hanlin, Laurel Harper will now be singled out for punishment: the Sheriff for questioning Sandy Hook and the politicization of violent events, and the mother for being a gun owner and advocating gun rights.


  18. So many comments it boggles the mind. Is there an easy way to find out if anyone replies to comments or whether your comment got filtered out? I couldn’t find my last comment anywhere but with 100 it would be easy to miss it. I think the closer you get to DC the more noticeable the mind control. One of my favorite subjects to hammer on is the moon landings and Sandy Hook. The current shooting du jour cannot be understood without seeing how the first was held up as a weather balloon for swaying public opinion on gun ownership revocation in general and in particular if they could make exceptions to the constitution acceptable in certain cases. Baby steps to total revocation of gun ownership rights. One of the things I think exposed Sandy Hook was little things like it was all first graders that got killed. No second third or fourth graders got so much as a scratch. Its a little bit too neatly framed. That isn’t by itself all that significant until put into the fabric of the total story. Just like the moon landings. Most people simply cannot consider the moon landings were faked because for most red white and blue Americans… to do so would be equivalent to staring in the dark abyss of hell. When you say this last shooting was staged people have the same horrified reaction the very idea of fakery.They just can’t go there as my pal Roger said. Just like the moon landings.The video of Neil Armstrong parachuting to safety just before the lunar module crashed. The contraption wouldn’t fly in earth’s atmosphere… why would anyone believe it would fly any better in outer space? The crashing lunar module is another thread in the fabric of the story. By itself… not that strong of evidence. Like the Porta Potties at Sandy Hook provided by FEMA. Not all that strong by itself. But threaded into the story it has higher impact… like the TV appearance of all three astronauts after the greatest feat of daring and monumental achievement. Buzz Aldrin looked like he wanted to be anywhere but on TV. Neil Armstrong was so subdued it almost seemed like he could be just excited picking up his dry cleaning as walking on the moon. Michael Collins didn’t get to walk on the moon and yet he showed the most excitement of the three. How does that happen? If you take the sedated demeanor of the astronauts as being incongruent with monumental achievement by itself… not super strong evidence we faked the moon landings. Parents of murder victims shown upbeat, even vibrant after the saddest news they have ever received. Not that strong by itself. However when you put it together… like the crashing lunar module and the lemon Gus Grisham hung on the Apollo program before he was incinerated on the launching pad… the idea of a faked moon landings starts to grow wings. The idea has not become airborne yet but until you look at it from a real photographer’s perspective. I still get plenty of throw away pictures looking down the barrel of my SLR and using auto focus. Not having those two abilities would almost be equivalent to shooting blindfolded. I could get a few good pictures blind folded if i was lucky. But I wouldn’t have a chance without auto focus. The astronauts had no auto focus and could only point in the general direction of their subject. You could get lucky and get a few good shots with good composition. You know what you can’t get? Hundreds of them. Even perfect lighted ones in shadows. Let’s assume just for a moment that 1969 technology had the ability to land and return from the moon. Would anybody believe it without photographic evidence? I don’t think they would. There was never any test to see if photography as we knew it in 1969 was even possible on the moon until they got there and on their first try it came out perfect… too perfect if you ask me. Killing all and only first graders at Sandy Hook… little too perfectly framed.

    1. dereklancer
      They made meticulous investigations and research and development regarding everything they needed. Cameras were not the most difficult problem. It is known that radioactivity exposes photographic film and affects digital detectors as well. But it was a minor effect.
      If you search you will find that debunking of this conspiracy theory has been going on for so long many webbpages about it are gone from the web but may often be found eg at archive.org
      Dont waste your time repeating already finished discussions.
      The elites want people to get lost in a maze of needless speculation while real conspiracies get less attention.

    1. Yes, precisely. Why not? The scripts are all the same, may as well use old footage while they’re at it. I hope they don’t bring Gene back for an encore.

    2. WOW, The videos won’t play.

      They are getting ready to make their move. The 47% which is really are 65% will hide just for freebies……………

  19. I just checked and so far the local FTD florists are donating flowers for the funeral services but no open casket funerals scheduled in this sleepy town and no official obituaries are listed yet either.

    1. no obits, eh? interesting

      I thought for sure this whole thing was to try and sway the ‘last bastion’ of resistance – the (potential conspiracy theorist) sheriff, the gun-supporting town, the protests, the fact that it happened in Oregon (home of the First openly Bi-Sexual governor! non-elected, btw),etc. – that in the end all of these dissenters would change their minds, and finally Come To Their Senses about supporting gun control. Obviously the media Wanted everyone to see this, as they choose what people see – why? To me, that seemed like the notable difference this time vs. the other events, where there was no similar public response broadcast by msm.

      Now I’m thinking more about what they Aren’t broadcasting…how very effective the lockdown/evacuation was. I honestly haven’t watched Any reporting on this, so my exposure is pretty much limited to whatever is covered in related youtube vids – but I shudder every time I see the pic of the (mostly young) student lineup, hands on their heads before or after having their phones confiscated (!! how long were they kept? I haven’t seen any footage of people in lines waiting to get their phone back? How the heck would That work?). I don’t do social media, either – but Surely people would say something on Facebook after going through mass hysteria/lockdown/confiscation/lineup/patdown/herding/evacuation/reclamation of items/cars/yadayada?…I mean, what a Day, right? Isn’t that precisely what people yammer about on the socials? Give it a hashtag, and go on for days? Is this happening?

      Are these stories in the media? I’d like to find a timeline of the student side of things – didn’t they report that the gunman was down within the first hour at most? So why didn’t they just leave things on lockdown – why did they need to evacuate? Seems it would take a while to clear out – I was working at a community college in Los Angeles the day the Rodney King verdict came in, and we shut the school down as a curfew was being imposed and they were closing down public transportation…it took Several hours, and we weren’t rounding anyone up. What time Did these students/staff finally get home that night?

      [And what about the neighbor Lorie Andrews a few blocks away who reported that she saw a “steady stream” of students leaving?~ProfDoom1 on zeekly~] Wouldn’t the busses have pulled into the school parking lot to load up? She’s questionable, as she reports hearing gunshots from her back porch – but how was her story supposed to fit in?

      There was a similar ‘reported evacuation’ at SH – and people wondered where the busses were, etc. But this time there’s the added feature of collecting personal items and a patdown – isn’t that a first? And why aren’t we hearing more about how well their evacuation plans went? They got $2mil or so to “practice” what to do in this situation…will there be a public report so we know how much bang we’re getting for our buck?

      If I’m wrong, and these things Are being reported/blogged/youtubed, sorry for wasting your time with the read.

      If I’m right…Why? Does the fact that this part of the incident has been reduced to a one-sentence event mean that one goal was accomplished?

      As noted in a truly gag-inducing article from the Oregonian titled
      At a community crossroads, terror and heroism collide:

      “As classes were cleared, officers and deputies marched students and teachers out in single-file lines, hands up. School buses arrived to ferry survivors to the Douglas County Fairgrounds. Police patted down survivors and confiscated cell phones — steps to both preserve the crime scene and protect against a possible second attack.”

      Preserve the crime scene – does that mean they downloaded everyone’s phone in case someone might have been communicating about it? And/or wiping out anything recorded during the event?

      Shouldn’t Hannity and Limbaugh be barking about this? crickets

      1. Well, I was interested in the reutilization of SHES footage but he said in his statement that “Redsilver J’s” website had been taken down. I didn’t check.

        I’m glad if its still up. Nonetheless, If you go to some of the links on my post its pretty obvious that they are co-mingling SHES footage with the Oregon production.

        Doesn’t anyone notice things like this?

        1. They are taking ALL of them down and NOBODY will or can do a thing about it. They are flexing their muscles we have giving them.

        2. RSJ was deleting negative comments re: his vid on Jeff C and now I see vid has been removed. Another commenter said he deleted his comment on another vid. I like his channel but not sure if I want to stay where free speech and dissenting opinions are not allowed.

  20. Did you guys see this article about the Oregon shooting event?


    “MORE THAN A COINCIDENCE? Author of Gun Bill ‘Related’ to Victim in Umpqua College Shooting”

    This “victim” mirrors other familiar false-flag tropes:

    “In another strange twist, Carnes, one of nine victims during last week’s shooting at the UCC Roseburg campus, was also the niece of a local paramedic. Additionally, Carnes, was said to be pursuing a career in medicine, echoing other shooting victims over the past couple of months.”


    “And so the adventure begins!”

  21. Gotta love this little narrative, added almost incidentally to an Oregon shooting news story featured on Scoop Feed:

    “‘SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING’ – The well-known phrase “see something, say something” was originally crafted by the advertising firm Korey Kay & Partners and was not picked up by DHS at first – as it was only a “creative exercise,” according to the ad firm.”


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