Free Form Friday X

Manic depressive markets, the Demopublican race to the White House, fired “truthers,” the ensuing war of terror, the Zika virus, polluted water supplies, and much, much more from today’s headlines to keep you in a perpetual state of general uneasiness and fear.


Time for yet another MHB Free Form Friday and beyond from the best darned blog commenters this side of Xanadu.-JFT

570 thoughts on “Free Form Friday X”

  1. I have been researching the “5 Dancing Israelis,” the Mossad agents caught filming the 9/11 attack, otherwise seen on several occasions high 5ing in the park, etc., and finally arrested with bombs in their car;
    They were posing as muslims in order to shift blame to muslim extremists, which is the narrative of Israel, and Zionists occupying our government, they were doing everything to draw attention to themselves in order to be caught,
    then of course Intelligence services quickly released them,
    which shows clearly that they are all part of the larger plot of 9/11;
    The Israeli Media did a sham interview with (allegedly) these same Mossad agents, attempting to pass these people off as some benign group who were not Mossad agents at all, which is par for the course for this evil regime,
    all of this shows foreknowledge by the Intelligence agencies, Israel and more

    1. Or is it peckerwood bad acting? Anyone who would get into an armed incident involving standing up next to that whackjob Pete Santilli is probably a agent provocateur. If these assholes are hoaxing us, they are sell outs and traitors, for which they probably should be shot, but by a firing squad, after a trial.

        1. Michael K… I don’t play coy, whatever that means….

          Are you suggesting Mr Finicum did not die?

          Whether the ” Standoff” , as a whole, is a false flag or not, is irrelevant to the video I posted and the question I asked..

        2. The video you have posted is a grainy silent picture lacking in enough forensic evidence to amount to conclusive proof of murder, much less that anyone even died. Yes, I am suggesting that “LaGoy Finicus” is an actor.

        3. Michael K…. Besides the 13 second video, I also posted a link to an Oathkeepers article which featured 2 further videos showing LaVoy Finicum’s death…one is 12 minutes, one is 26 minutes…perhaps you should watch them before rushing to judgement.

          There is no evidence Finicum was ” an actor”, nor that the death didn’t occur, All you posted was a link to an unsigned , probably photoshopped image… and a generalised comment on the standoff from oathkeepers

          I encourage you and anyone else interested , to read an excellent article about the life of LaVoy Finicum, written by Anthony Hall, on this Link


          “Numerous major national militia groups, including the Three Percenter movement and the Oath Keepers, have come out to publicly condemn the actions of the Bundys. Many in the community have deemed those involved in the standoff as potential federal agent provocateurs, who in no way represent the militia movement and are instead meant to undermine its legitimacy.”

          So now the troll army is at work promoting this hoax, and creating a false dialectical argument along the lines of whether “LaVoy Finicum” was a dangerous man or a martyr, when both are probably equally false.

          Finicum’s family is probably all actors too, his past would probably fall apart under serious scrutiny. And that is exactly what the troll troof army is out there to put a stop to, by inciting an emotional reaction.

        5. Go back to selling fake watches, Komerade…

          Gordon Duff of Veterans Today being interviewed by talk show hosts Mike Harris (Short End of the Stick), Kevin Barrett (Truth Jihad) and Jeff Rense (Jeff Rense Program).

          Recording dates – October, November 2012

          At 70m35s into the Mike Harris interview Duff makes the following statement:

          “I don’t know know any imaginable way you can get information…First of all…Because, about 30%, based on what I believe…and you know what? Who says I’m right? According to my belief, and I have as good of, uh access to information as anyone in the world, probably, anyone I know of. About 30% of what’s written on Veterans Today, is patently false. About 40% of what I write, is at least purposely, partially false, because if I didn’t write false information I wouldn’t be alive. I simply have to do that. I write…anything I write I write between the lines.”

        6. Michael…if you had bothered to read the article about LaVoy Finicum , by Anthony Hall, you would have seen that Veterans Today, disagreed with it and declared themselves separate from the writer’s opinions….

          In other words, its an independent article, not the view of Veterans Today. I have no sympathy with VT, I rarely agree with anything they say.

          What Anthony Hall says about LaVoy Finicum, amongst many other things is
          1 He was a member of the Mormon Church

          2 He was involved in the previous standoff at the Bundy Ranch

          3 He was raised in Four Corners, alongside the Navajo Reservation and a strong supporter of native American rights. In particular, he had publicly deplored the fact that Malheur Refuge housed native American artefacts in dank conditions in a basement instead of returning them to their rightful native American owners

          4 He quotes Cliven Bundy on Finicum ….

          ” It appears that America was fired upon by its government. One of liberty’s finest patriots has fallen… We’ve got one killed and I can say he was sacrificed for a good purpose”’

          Still think Finicum was a crisis actor? OK, go fact check those 4 points. Come back to MHB, show us how you debunked those 4 facts and prove me an idiot.

          Until then, I’m satisfied one of us is an idiot and its not me.

        7. There is a scene in the film “Ronan” where DeNiro alludes to a circular firing squad. I’m afraid this shooting looks a bit like that – where one cop could actually shoot another cop if he fired on LaVoy Finicum. Yes, a lot of this does have the smell of a pageant to it.

        8. Thanks for video about Santilli. The brouhaha with Dr. Fetzer and Dr. Reynolds and Santilli is coming back into my memory now after viewing that video.

          Santilli is now coming into my clearer view now also as an opportunistic sociopath or psychopath. Fact that he was mysteriously recently exonerated from weapons charge and was proven to be a paid FBI informant in the past lends credence to there being many paid government provocateurs in Oregon on both sides of the issue and Santilli being one of them.

          Santilli and Dr. Reynolds really did Dr. Fetzer wrong and spoke against Dr. Fetzer on air in very negative and aggessive ways, and yet Dr. Fetzer went on Santilli’s radio show a year or so ago and apparently forgave or forgot what Santilli had done. I posted my puzzlement at that.

          Now Santilli has posted some good info about crisis actor, “Liz” in her various roles and appearance at various false events and this has boosted, back up from the pits, his credibility quotient with the alternative news audience. If he is working for the “government”, it sure shows how they can use somebody to expose ostensibly damning truthful information, the indisputable crisis actors for the ulterior purpose of getting the truth seeking audience terribly confused and not knowing where to place their attention and loyalties. The goal of having characters like Santilli out their for us to try to figure out is that many will just throw their hands up and give up on truth seeking altogether.

          If Santilli has posted good info about crisis actors, all on his own without assist of handlers, the good info being put out their is just a false use of good info for personal gain of Santilli.

          Psychopaths as well as Sunsteinians can use the same tools and their purposes and goals can be different but equally evil.

      1. Michael, I watched this video of “Pete Santilli Exposed” a couple of days ago. Did Pete really do all of the stuff mentioned to Vinny Eastwood and others? I’ve only watched his show a few times when he happened to have a guest or two that I like. I certainly picked up on his gigantic ego right away, but I had no idea he treated people so horribly.

        1. What I have seen of Pete Santilli comes from YouTube recommendations which were intelligently adapted to fit my supposed preferences. And in this case it was this Spring with the JADE HELM 15 flap. And I will admit that it didn’t take me long to see this guy as a dangerous clown of some eminence Gris behind the scenes. Never found a bigger agent provocateur type anywhere. Getting in a foxhole with that guy? This is like a stupidly written reality TV show, and “LaVoy Finicum” is a jaded attempt to invoke Lavon Helm’s spirit, have the FBI kill him in effigy, and then pick the emotional wounds until it gets nasty.

      2. The Oregon standoff is a complete Hoax. Check out the no dis info site. Crisis actress Victoria Munoz, from Sandy Hook, The Boston bombing, and the Navy Yard Shooting is caught on scene giving an interview. I can’t do links from here, but please investigate and check it out.

        1. Have not studied Oregon event deeply but I must point out that it is NOT a dialectical matter of either / or.

          Either it is a “complete hoax”


          it is a real event (ergo shooting and death were real too)

          This particular event is something that COULD BE BASED in realtty and just cause.

          The BLM has been doing Agenda 21 and now Agenda 30 for a long time. They have been unjustly treating farmers and ranchers for a long time and have been defrauding them regarding their grazing rights leases. That is my understanding anyway.

          Dr Edwin Vierra, Ph.D. and J.D.

          PART 1 of 3

          tried to explain the rightness of militias and the right way they should be formed and operated.

          Needless to say, he was probably largely ignored in his admonitions and the militia movement is fraught with infiltrators of every kind.

          Nevertheless, people fighting the government over land and water and grazing rights agreements is part of the real America we should cherish and uphold.

          Compaing Oregon as a “false or hoax event” to say for example, 9-11 are apples and oranges.

          It was totally against the laws of physics and aerodynamics to have those buildings disappear the way they did and for big Boeings to travel at 500 mph so close to the ground and to meld effortlessly into steel skyscrapers. No possible basis in reality or something that could possibly happen – AT ALL !

        2. I read Vierra’s piece on the Militia,
          interesting read but he only addresses the Select Militia (organized),
          and says nothing about the unorganized Militia (citizens),
          he also emphasizes how the organized militia serves under the president orders/instructions,
          further goes on to castigate what he calls ‘private armies,’ and in that he would include the Oregon Standoff,
          The National Guard, which I assume most people today equate with the Organized Militia seems to me to be more of a standing army at the complete disposal of the President,
          if the President is a Tyrant how does the National Guard have any effect on righting government wrongs??? Have you ever heard of the National Guard taking any action against tyranny in government?
          If under his guide, nobody ever organizes to fight government corruption, they just support the national; Guard and, and….well nothing I guess!
          This is not Militia 101 for people

    2. Why is air footage conveniently overhead at this time and at this particular location? That is either one strange coincidence or it was ordered ahead of time. If it is the later, it proves that this event was 100% staged. If it was coincidence, well then the odds of that are very slim indeed.

        1. So, in what kind of “armed occupation” do we get in our SUV and go driving around, abandoning our defenses, and virtually proposing to get caught? When did it go from static to mobile “standoff”? When Randy Weaver’s son went for wood from the shed, he got shot to death. Strategically it was not even a realistic, rational option, if the Feds were involved in an armed standoff, how did these guys break out from encirclement to go down to the beer store?

        2. Michael K…. Who said they abandoned their defences? I’ve not heard that nobody remained at the Refuge.

          if you bother to actually read the 21st Century Wire article I linked to, you will have satisfactory answers to your questions

        3. No, Steve, the 21st Century Wire article you linked to answers none of the questions I posed about what the heck people involved in an “armed occupation” which is a “standoff” are doing cruising around in their SUV. It just superficially examines the scenario and goes straight to accusing murder on the cop.

          What a load of horse crap. Love the picture of “LaVoy Finicum” with his huge Mormon family. Ever heard of the Mormon CIA? Those crooked cult weirdos could easily fake his entire family and supporting genealogy. Look a little closer and this nonsense will com apart at the seams like the proverbial straw man.

          “Satisfactory answers” ? How about plausible lies? That’s your story. And what stake have you got in proving the “alt-meeja” emotional reaction script? How do you arrive at such certainty with so little yet proven?

        4. Michael…now you’re just boring me.
          As Ric just told you, they were not cruising around, they were invited by a local cop to a town meeting and were entitled to assume safe passage. There has been dialogue throughout the standoff.

          Your comments about Mormons are irrelevant and offensive.

          Patrick Henningsen of 21st Century Wire is a respected writer and sometime associate of Dr James Tracy who gives us this forum, so referring to it as ” horse crap” is not a viewpoint that will be well received on here.

          This started with you saying LaVoy Finicum’s death was faked…and that he was a crisis actor.

          Regardless of all or any other details, you have shown nothing at all to support those two ridiculous claims. Unless or until you do so, you don’t merit being taken seriously and I shan’t waste my time engaging with you further.

        5. They were heading to some king of “town meeting” and I guess they thought they could just move freely and then ran into the road block.

          Mistake on their part to assume the Feds would be nice, but they did leave several people at the camp to hold the fort.

        6. Yes Steven, precisely. One seldom discussed aspect of hoaxes or “false-flags” is that they can also be used to sow dissension. For example, I personally don’t care if Pete Sentelli is an opportunist or not. All I care is what is says or does.

          Then there’s the “if you spot crisis actors, its a hoax and nobody died” crowd. Actually, one thing has little to do with the other. They can, and do, kill people whenever it suits them. That is not the definer of “hoax”.

          In a sense, everything they did from the outset was a hoax. I don’t believe at this time that the occupation was fake. The feds and their psyops in town and everything that follows from it was “a hoax” in that it was pure theater. I’m afraid that at least one died, however.

          Of course the plane was there per plan. They had planes and drones and snipers, oh my. It was all set up before hand and someone “inside” tipped them when they were leaving. Remember, they came and went at will. They weren’t confined there.

          They had no reason to suspect that they’d be ambushed going to a meeting. They went to town all the time. I believe the recording made by the 18 year-old girl who was in the truck. There are lots of other shots of this as well, trust me. We may never see them, but they’re there.

          I sincerely hope that they will use this in their future planning. They got some of it right. They got most of it wrong. Not everyone has the same talents. It is easy to criticize, but I do appreciate their courage.

          Like I’ve said before, going to the totally corrupt government and asking them to fix something is a bit unrealistic. We’ve seen before how power responds to demands. Despite the errors made, this did respond with quite a few. They are not going to televise that, however.

          No person or group can seriously expect to prevail against the resources of the government in a situation requiring force. Something like this as a rallying point might work if there were a number of other actions preceding it that gained momentum.

          They did succeed in showing the “authorities” for the worthless bunch that they are, on several levels. All events like this accomplish is to force them to do in the open what they do in the shadows. “Resist and we’ll ambush you and gun you down on a public highway”. There was a time in my life when this would have raised more than eyebrows.

        7. Michael K… so, you’re back, with your nonsense. No, I can’t link this man saying he values his freedom with ” the whole thing being staged”.

          He was murdered. He was not a crisis actor. Read Lophatt’s two recent comments. Try to open your mind a little. There is always a bigger picture and your not getting it.

        8. In your defense, Michael K, it is difficult to say with 100% certainty, that this event depicted did or did not happen. I worked for the Govt for about 8 years, and I have a good idea at how things are done. I have never seen a video released SO FAST! It takes a minimum of two weeks to get the approvals all the way to the top, even for the most egregious things.

          What I am saying is that whether or not things happened as depicted, there is no way this could have been released in less than 36 hours, period. This event could not have been recorded any later than January 12th to be released when it was. That being the case, well one can draw many conclusions. It is always correct to know that the television and the Govt has an agenda.

          There is no way the Sandy Hoax event occurred on 12-14-12. Climate and sun evidence points to a much earlier time, perhaps one month prior to the date.

          The Govt is not good, efficient, or accurate at running anything. They do a poor job of putting on a play, and their glaring errors always show through. Video of this nature is never, ever, released this quickly without thorough review. Many good investigators have noted key items such as lack of muzzle flash, incorrect time stamps, and missing footage.

        9. Lohatt… yes, I share your take on this.
          I’ve got a poster here called Michael K, telling me Lavoy Finicum is alive and is a crisis actor. Sometimes I think I’m back in the 60’s tripping in my student room.

          There needs to be a lot more care taken and distinctions made between ‘hoax’, ‘staged’ ”false flag” crisis actor” and so on

          I do hope the Oregon standoff as a rallying point, might stir up more kick back from the people. All resistance to oppression starts real small, often leads nowhere, occasionally grows. We shall see.

        10. Oh I get it, Steve. You’re irrational and prejudiced determination that “LaVoy Finicum” was “murdered” has no more basis in fact than my claim that he is a complete sham and an actor. Yet you come off like you are a normal person who accepts what he sees on TV as reality, and I am a kooky conspiracy theorist tripping on acid. In fact, you are purveying an conspiracy theory in which the government is murdering Christian resistance in cold blood, and all you have in your defense of this blood libel in “come on man, be more open minded.” Who is tripping?

          So you are running with this narrative and spreading it far and wide, not because it has all the evidence behind it, but because you, “do hope the Oregon standoff as a rallying point, might stir up more kick back from the people.” Now, why do you hope that? What good could this possibly embody, considering that the militias, the ranchers and the townspeople all wanted peace and not this atrocious instigation?

          It looks to me like you want to see more “LaVoy Finicums” not less, because you want more bloodshed and mayhem. And what worthwhile cause is there for this catastrophe? You answer,” All resistance to oppression starts real small, often leads nowhere, occasionally grows. We shall see.” So you want to see it probably lead nowhere, but that’s good enough reason for you.

          You have proven your bias for seeing everything in the worst light possible, no matter how far from the official story that goes, and that you hope it leads to essentially futile acts of violent resistance. You have also proven your strong bias for the “alt-meeja” arificial consensus, and being a true believer and echo chamber for it, which makes you a willing participant in a psyop. You are a troll, Komerade, and your day is coming.

        11. Michael, what a strange fellow you are! Let’s just keep it simple. I don’t have a ” narrative”. This began when I reacted to your claim that Finicum is not only alive but a crisis actor. Despite your latest rant, you haven’t shown a shred of evidence to support that.

          I don’t know what Komerade is, never saw that made up word before and I’m no troll. I was part of the counter culture in the 60’s and my viewpoint is largely unchanged. I never advocated violent resistance, but I do support those who challenge the status quo which is, essentially,oppression by the few of the many.I never said I wanted resistance to lead nowhere. Exactly the opposite.
          Everything else you said is nonsense. I don’t know what ” alt-meeja artificial consensus” means, let alone why its a ‘psy-op’.

          The only one promoting conspiracy theories is you.

        12. The only one promoting conspiracy theories is me? Saying this, you ignore that you promote a blood libel against the FBI, that they ambushed and murdered a man in cold blood, which is a conspiracy theory of the first magnitude.

          Have you considered that not all alt-meeja outlets are for real? Not all are products of grass roots journalism, but some are “Astroturf”. You claim not to see even know what that is all about, that you are clueless about state actors in the press. Seems strange for a counterculture movement type who knows all about COINTELPRO. But it doesn’t even have to the US government, anyone can play on this global web, including the formerly Communist bloc. But you wouldn’t have any Communist sympathy now would you, Mr. Sixties counterculture? You wouldn’t willingly go along with agents in the media who play to your preexistent bias.

        13. Whoah, Michael, so many negative waves ! You’re really ruining my buzz here…. Of course I was a communist in the 60’s, everybody under 30 was, unless they were brain dead .Actually, I was an anarchist, we were sort of brainier than the commie guys… lol ….Times change, I’m not attached to any label now.

          We all have a pre existent bias, how could we not?

          When I made the comment you disliked about small protests, like the Oregon standoff, perhaps being a rallying point, a seed which could spread and grow, maybe into disenchantment, then maybe larger protest and onwards and upwards, I was thinking about The Tiny Dot. Its a little video by a guy called Larken Rose. Maybe you know of him. I know little about him, I don’t know if he’s a communist or a libertarian right wing type, I don’t want to know, I just enjoy the message. The few control the many. The few are evil psychopaths who serve themselves, not us. If being a member of ” Us” makes me a commie, fine, but I don’t see it that way. I could say the FBI are agents of the evil oligarchy, but then you would call me a commie again… never mind , just kick back, light up a stokie and spend 7 minutes with Larken

          love and peace Steven ( not Steve)


        14. Michael…. that video makes a big deal of the date &time stamp, but if you watch the original, unedited, video released by the FBI themselves, on Youtube, the FBI explain that pilots fly on Zulu Time, or GMT, essentially English time, which is 8 hours ahead of Pacific Standard Time.
          If that’s correct ( and its easily checked so I’m guessing its true), then we are left with the videomaker’s other claims of editing, missing minutes and so on. I’m not qualified to argue those technical issues,but I hope I’m open and honest enough to change my mind if I become convinced the shooting was staged as you believe.

          What I did see in the footage was a man who appears to have been shot, being left unattended for at least 8 minutes. If he was shot, then surely an effort could have been made to check if he was dead or alive and transport him to the nearest medical facility, where perhaps his life could have been saved.

          As Lophatt said earlier, this confrontation on the highway should never have happened and if the claims of ”it was staged” prove unfounded, then a man lost his life totally unnecessarily.

        15. Lophatt, Do you agree that this video was released in unbelievable record time? That has raised a very large Red flag in my observations.

  2. Where were trauma helicopters at Sandy Hook?

    Yale New Haven Hospital: Level One trauma Plus Pediatric trauma

    -45 min by ground- (15-17min) by air- Were they called to go on standby?- No

    Hartford Hospital
    Level One trauma and level I Pediatric
    Flight time (approx. 20)min
    Were they called?- no

    Air Medical
    Based outside of Watertown, CT. Private air company
    Shorter flight to any number of Level One/Level 2 trauma centers
    Were they called? No

    West Chester Medical CTR. NY- Level one with Aeromedical (52min ground-approx 25min air)

    Mid Hudson Hospital- Poughkeepsie- Level 2 with Aeromedical
    Any EMS person who is responding to the scene and is certified by OEMS:

    • POLICE
    • Fire Personal
    • MRT, EMT all levels
    • Nurse or Physician

    Mechanism of Injury
    • Fall from over 20 feet
    • Apparent high speed impact
    • Ejection from vehicle
    • Death of another passenger
    • Passenger with multiple injuries
    • Major vehicle deformity- outside/inside
    • Vehicle rollover
    • Pedestrian struck at speed >20mph

    Physiologic Factors
    • Systolic BP <90 mmHG
    • RR 29
    • Respiratory Distress (drowning, fire)
    • Pulse 110
    • Cardiac Event with unstable vital signs
    • Hypothermia/Hyperthermia
    • Anaphylaxis
    • High Risk Pregnancy/Complications
    • GCS <12
    Situational Factors
    • Prolonged Extrication
    • Increased Travel Time
    • Rural of Isolated Area
    • Medical or Community Disaster

    Anatomic Factors
    • GSW to Head, Neck, Chest, Abdomen, or Groin
    • Penetrating Injury to above
    • Severe Burns: >15% of BSA
    • Burns to Face and Neck
    • Possible Spinal Cord Injury
    • Amputation
    • Fracture of 2 or more Long Bones


    • When the patient looks bad or the source of injury is impressive
    • The aircraft can always turn around
    • Work within local Fire/EMS protocols
    Level one trauma centers: Yale, Hartford
    Level two: Bridgeport, Danbury, Stamford, St Vincents

    1. Greg, I’m sure that no real trauma personnel were called; they would have known right off the bat that this whole event was a lie. Real trauma workers were outraged after this event, believing that 20 children were allowed to die when some could have been saved. Real trauma workers would have taken the roof off the school to rescue those children if they had to.

    2. I’m sure you could bypass all those guidelines and check off lists if you just said:
      Hey, 26 people have just been shot. The Helicopters would be dispatched instantly.
      Half way in flight to SHE they would receive another call:
      Never Mind.
      Lieutenant Vance just said, they are probably all dead anyway and to just call Wayne Carver and get a “Big, Magnificent Thing Over here!”

  3. Pete Santilli is a mixed bag. To the good side, he was the only alternative reporter who diligently followed and was present at the Burns Oregon ongoing event, and he did some recent good work on the crisis actors of Sandy Hook and Boston. To the bad side, he badly fumbled the ball a few years ago when he came out strongly against Dr. James Fetzer’s 9-11 work and sided with Dr. Morgan Reynolds. Dr. Reynolds did some excellent work, in fact THE best work, exposing 9-11 No Planes, but somehow Dr. Reynolds went against Dr. Fetzer on the nukes vs. DEWs issue so Dr. Reynolds seemed to totally discount the totality of Dr. Fetzer’s work. Santilli has a very shaky or questionable background.

    The main discussion topic I would like to thrown out here and do not know if anyone would be interested in exploring this.

    I see sort of a “conflict” between the logical fallacy of “special pleading” or “cherry picking”, “when you cite only evidence that is favorable to your side and ignore the rest”


    Something called NLP, Neuro Linquistic Programming.

    Allan Weisbecker calls James Corbett on using NLP regarding a speech he gave wherein Corbett matter-of-factly referring to Flight 77 having crashed into the Pentagon 23 times. .

    There is also the issue of professionals, each in their own discipline, declining to ever comment or write about issues not in their specialty area.

    I think that there are many videos, alternative Internet radio show interviews and guests who dishonestly and deliberately, like by using NLP methods, communicate false information directly to their audience’s subconscious. It is what I consider to be an evil form of mind control.

    There are two main areas of 9-11 that have been retained, albeit done often in these very dishonest forms of communication ways, throughout all the hundreds of shows and videos and articles about 9-11 —

    1) WHO did 9-11 and the strong pointing toward Zionist/Mossad/Israel interests


    2) Real commerical jetliners with passengers having crashed into the four disignated sites on 9-11.

    The perpetrators of 9-11 apparently must hold on to those two areas of study of the events in order to maintain tight mind control over the event as a whole for its general purpose of accelerating the imposing of a one world death and slavery system for all.

    1. Forgot to mention the man “limited handout” videos and articles wherein much solid truthful and very impressive information is conveyed but that also, often most subtly, conveys false information of the kind that is foundational to the understanding the event or topic being discussed.

      Is the leaving out of true information or the subtle communication of false information deliberate or not?

      Does there not come a time when we must hold the communicator responsible for having certain knowledge about certain foundational aspects of the event or topic of discussion? I think there does. I no longer will read or listen to James Corbett even though he does do what is ostensibly good commentary on many subjects.

      1. Interesting comments, d-lady. I noticed recently that Sibel Edmonds, Corbett, and Pepe Escobar et al. will be assembling a news website that hopes to be financially self supporting. That being the case, should Sibel be forewarned about this excellent critique by Weisbecker?
        Is Corbett a wolf in sheep’s clothing? Should be be universally exposed and condemned?

    2. Hello Dachsilady, I`m providing a link to NLP methods, for those reader and bloggers, who have no ideas what it is.

      To me, like yourself, its more “mind rape” rubbish ,that advance psychology has known about for years, and when 911 was implemented , they decided to use this methodology.
      On the your concern between the “professional conflict of academics” I see it as created posturing and that some of these individuals ,have agreed to promote their own narrative as a sociological experiment just for sh*# and giggles.

      Im going to be a bit nuisance, but Ill highly recommend “American ” it has a wealth of downloadable books that are not in print anymore. One of Antony C. Sutton book, ” How the Order Controls Education” will give you a historical analysis of the current state of academia in the US & the world.

      You will have a “Ah Ha or WTF ! moment and realized why Dr.Tracy was fired so blatantly and a majority of fellow professors, played the three monkey`s.

      By the way, Antony C. Sutton was labelled a tinfoil hat wearing nut job,and couldn’t print books for a long time in America.

      1. Nice posting, Ted. I used to hear Dr. Sutton with Dr. Stan Monteith and loved the story about Dr. Sutton coming back to his office at Stanford University after a conference or business trip and finding his office locked, and his name taken off the door. And that was at least 15 years ago so the treatment Dr. Tracy is experiencing is nothing new.

        Love Dr. Sutton’s work and the phrase “the best enemies money can buy.”

      2. Gary North gives a capsule history of Sutton’s fall from grace on pages 64-66 of his book Conspiracy: A Biblical View, which is dedicated with these words: “This book is dedicated to Antony Sutton [and] Otto Scott
        who did their homework, published their findings, and paid the price.” (a free copy can be downloaded here:

        These are the first two paragraphs of that passage:

        Want to become unemployable at any university in the United States? Write Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution, and have it published by Arlington House, the conservative publishing company. Demonstrate that the “kook” theory that New York bankers and big business leaders financed the Bolshevik revolution is really not so far off base. Name those businessmen who actually did it. Show why they did: to win lucrative trade monopolies with the new Communist government. Show that Lenin paid off, and that his successors did and still do.

        Then write Wall Street and FDR. Have Arlington House publish that, too. Show that Franklin Roosevelt began his career as a lawyer with the law firm whose principle client was the New York banking firm of J.P. Morgan. Show that he got his first appointment in government, as Assistant Secretary of the Navy, because of the intervention of Morgan partner Thomas W. Lamont. Show that after his ill-fated candidacy for Vice President in 1920, he became vice president of something else: Fidelity & Deposit Insurance Co. of Maryland, and resident director of the company’s New York office. Franklin Roosevelt was on the board of directors of eleven corporations, the president of a large trade association, and a partner in two law firms, 1921- 28. Show that, by profession, FDR was a banker and an international speculator. Entitle Part III, “FDR and the Corporate Socialists. “

        1. Thanks, Patrick for the link. I’ve read all of his books. And most people have no clue ,how deep the rabbit hole really is. Ah well Im preaching to the choir.
          ll just run off now and do some more researching.

    3. I am not sure what you mean by this:

      There are two main areas of 9-11 that have been retained, albeit done often in these very dishonest forms of communication ways, throughout all the hundreds of shows and videos and articles about 9-11 —

      1) WHO did 9-11 and the strong pointing toward Zionist/Mossad/Israel interests


      2) Real commerical jetliners with passengers having crashed into the four disignated sites on 9-11.

      The perpetrators of 9-11 apparently must hold on to those two areas of study of the events in order to maintain tight mind control over the event as a whole for its general purpose of accelerating the imposing of a one world death and slavery system for all.

      End of quote.

      Judy Wood, as far as I can tell, is the only person who insists that we keep in mind that ALL of the World Trade Center buildings were destroyed that morning. No one else talks about WTC3, WTC4, WTC5 and WTC6.

      The other thing that should be central to the conversation is that whoever planned the destruction of WTC1 and WTC2 was EXTREMELY careful to not damage the “bathtub.” If they got that wrong, the Hudson River–essentially the Atlantic Ocean– would have filled the tunnels and subways, and New York would be toast. Wet toast.

      So the planners used a technique that evaporated the towers, and ruined all the rest of the buildings with WTC in their names, but none of the surrounding buildings were targeted. Lophat argues that Veterans Today made a persuasive case that tiny little nukes, strategically placed, could explain it all. Judy Wood says it is a technology we have never been told about. No one else comes close to addressing the dilemma. The mass of the buildings WTC1 and WTC2 cannot have crashed down without cracking the “bathtub.” That mass evaporated and blew away.

      But why were all seven buildings destroyed?

      Obviously, your item number 2 is risible, since no one ever talks about Building 6, much less 3,4, or 5. It’s enough to discredit the whole story in itself. The only reason everyone is not always laughing about it is the press never told anyone, so no one knows.

      But it is your item number 1 that is of real interest to me.

      Why was the entire World Trade Center complex destroyed in such a careful way? We are well beyond financial motivations when we examine the evidence (WTC1 and WTC2 certainly paid enough via insurance claims), and the launching of a “war on terror” has to be secondary, too. It was too targeted, too specific, and too carefully done–and too masterful, as well. The technology used, the accuracy accomplished, and the complete removal of all aspects of our defenses (which allowed the airplanes story to be used as cover) are the key to the question. Mike Ruppert, a bloviating blowhard, wrote a book called Crossing the Ribicon which documented that, what was it, 17? hijacking drills were being played that morning. The fake hijackings tricked Air Traffic Control, because those drills were going on. Could Israel set that all up?

      If Israel is at the center of absolutely all aspects of American society and government, that is a conspiracy beyond belief. Israel must then have access to the technology that sliced Building 4 in half, and made one half disappear, that drilled those vast holes in Building 6, and made the contents that used to occupy those spaces disappear. Why did they use it in that way, that place, that day, and only then? If they have such mind-blowing tools, why don’t they ever use them? What was it about the WTC that was so special?

      In other words, it is preposterous to contend that “Israel did it,” if that’s what you are doing.

      Obviously, they were collaborators. Who did this, and why? We can’t know, because we have too little information. Some of the operatives have been identified–hired hands or partners, it is impossible to say.

      It is all very strange.

      1. Will not bother to rehash this with you, Patrick. You have not studied 9-11 and have chosen the Dr. Judy Wood camp. I was there too a long time ago but I rehabilitated myself and was not there long.

        Don Fox and Dr. Fetzer have better addressed all the evidence that Dr. Wood claims to address. I am not one hundred percent sold on mini and micro nukes but so far it looks far better than the DEWs theory to me.

        The Reynolds / Wood duo is an interesting pairing. He is Mr. No Planes and she for many years avoided ever saying a word about planes and stuck completely to her area of materials science and egineering expertise.

        I will hand it to Dr. Wood that she was the first to point some important matters such as all the buildings with the WTC designation being destroyed. Many other things too that were important contributions but she did a little too much tap dancing when it came to the nitty gritty of DEWs theory. She claims Building 7 went somewhere too by DEWs. Bout all Dr. Wood and Dr. Reynolds, her compadre, can tell us about DEWs is that they exist and they have a link for that.

        Dr. Wood also went off on the tangent that there is free energy for all the world now and we should know that. That seemed like a deliberate diversion.

        You know very well I am not saying ” that “Israel did it” or ” Israel is at the center of absolutely all aspects of American society and government” and that is your what I consider to be dishonest straw man stuff. That is why I never read your entire postings. That would be the definition of insanity on my part. Same old, same old.

        I feel it is morally wrong to twist and sidestep the involvement of the Mossad, Israel, and the Zionists and equally morally wrong to avoid like the plague and investigation of the most like WHO did 9-11.

        1. “You know very well I am not saying ” that “Israel did it” or ” Israel is at the center of absolutely all aspects of American society and government””

          I DON’T know that “very well,” dachsie. It’s what I wanted you to clarify, because you said:

          “1) WHO did 9-11 and the strong pointing toward Zionist/Mossad/Israel interests”.

          “Dishonest straw man stuff”? What are you talking about?

          Now you say “I feel it is morally wrong to twist and sidestep the involvement of the Mossad, Israel, and the Zionists and equally morally wrong to avoid like the plague and investigation of the most like WHO did 9-11.”

          I did not such twisting or sidestepping, and it is very bad form to accuse me of it, much less calling me “morally wrong.” Who do you think you are? I laid out the elements of 9/11 that the people who did it had to be in control of. This includes not only Air Traffic Control, but NORAD and the Pentagon, the White House, and the media. Not to mention most aspects of the government of New York City. If that’s not “absolutely all aspects of American society and government,” it will have to do until the real thing comes along.

          You seem to be denying that you believe that this all-powerful agency is Israel, after you said that it is in your original comment, but then restating that in fact you DO believe it is Israel. Are you confused?

          I am also amused when make the utterly preposterous claim that I “have not studied 9-11.” How you came to that conclusion is strictly one for Ripley (is that operation still a going concern?).

      2. To be fair to the late Mr. Ruppert, he vehemently opposed the notion that Israel was behind 9/11, emphasizing that it was entirely an inside job. He seems to have believed the motive was to do with diminishing world supplies of oil. He felt there was a motive which its perps felt was actually patriotic, but that they were into an infinite growth model of our economy, and this was bound to fail.

        Yes, he bloviated and took off in a lot of wrong directions, thinking he had “solved the crime” and playing far too much on his minimal experience as an LA cop (with lots of paranoia associated with that). But he never blamed anyone but the ones involved up to their eyebrows – our establishment and secret government which is never averse to staging big deceptions to achieve some objective or other.

        1. In the supra-governmental level the same entity controls the US and Israeli governments-The Rothchilds Zionist Syndicate
          so yes,
          they were BOTH involved since they are 2 heads of the same Hydra

      3. Great observations and questions, Patrick. A lot of the apparent controlled opposition is really pushing the “Israel did it” meme. Somebody might be about to be thrown under a bus.

        1. Of course, I don’t doubt the evidence that is presented in this regard is truly valuable. And the same branches of the same entity turn up like a bad penny in lots of the events we examine here at MHB, so there is definitely a there there. I’m not disputing that. I’d just like people who sound like dachsielady to explain the extend of the role played. She makes it sound like they are the whole of the conspiracy.

          (I am speaking obliquely, because the specific words are a guaranteed trip to moderation.)

          For some strange reason, she has a visceral dislike of me. As you say, I really am quite amiable, and usually liked, and I like her. She worked voluntarily for Dr. Stan, for Heaven’s sake! If HE, a very cautious man, trusted her, what’s not to trust? But she says she hates me so much that she doesn’t read my comments. Weird.

          I’d sure like it, though, if she explained just what portion the people in question had in 9/11. She DOES make it sound like it is 100%. Which is preposterous. She doesn’t strike me as a person worthy of ridicule, so she must have an idea of what percent role they had, and how.

          Since she says she won’t even read my comments any more, maybe someone else could ask her. I’d sure like to know the answer, because, as you say, Sarah, it is a meme, and memes often point to something bigger.

    1. This is sad, though I guess I thought the Onion had sold out years ago.

      I don’t know how to avoid the problem of takeovers like this: when a website gains any popularity or social significance, one of the Big Corporations (many of which have cooperation agreements with the government) swoop in and buy it. Why wouldn’t it be this way? I wonder about companies like Carbonite (a cloud-based computer backup service), that promises all kinds of security from external threats. But what about INTERNAL threats? What’s to keep a corporation from purchasing Carbonite, maybe for a vast sum (but not necessarily), and all the private information as well? What keeps this from happening to StartPage?

  4. Looks a lot like Adriana Victoria Munoz, Sandy Hook, Boston Bombing, Waterford lockdown, train crash survivor, etc. making an appearance in Oregon, protesting that the land is being taken away from the public for private use. She’s everywhere; she’s everywhere.


      dachsielady says:
      January 26, 2016 at 11:05 AM
      My three top nominees for
      Hollyhoax Crisis Actor Walk of Shame

      “Liz” in her debut role at…
      Sandy Hook Nobody Died Massacre, 12-14-12
      AND would you believe at a separate false event three months later…
      Liz played two completely different scenes and locations of the
      Boston Marathon Smoke Bombing April 15, 2013
      AND would you believe a repeat performance at a completely different false event — Sandy Hook Nobody Died Massacre
      Here’s Liz at Sandy Hook event, 12-14-12
      Massive Hoax Blown Wide Open
      FKTV.IS – Alexandra Bruce – January 12, 2016
      This is “Barry Soetoro’s site and is mainly about David Wheeler but at about
      On this outstanding one hour and 57 minute video.
      “Liz” working hard for your tax dollars.
      Super witness “Liz” just happened to be a live on the scene at the finish line of the Boston “Bombing” April 15, 2013
      https //
      CNN Caught Red Handed Interviewing Crisis Actor : Boston False Flag
      In same video
      Super witness “Liz” just happened also to be live on the scene at the Watertown shootout 4 days later on April 19, 2013
      https //
      at about 1:35 mark, Liz is interviewed again by CNN, but this time at the Watertown shootout.

      They’re really in our faces now with this woman, just as they were with “Rebeka Roth” entity. THEY just could care less how she has been fully exposed and identified as a “crisis actor.” THEY can get away with anything at this point because there are so many people still watching TV.

      Conors comes to some questionable conclusions and seems a little late to the game, nevertheless it is very cool that we now see her at at least the fourth different false event.

      In Oregon, she’s working for the “environmentalists” and at Sandy Hook and Boston she seemed to just reinforce the official narrative. Nevertheless, she is working for only one side and “it ain’t us.”

      1. I believe this lady was also on hand as a witness to the Pennsylvania train crash incident a couple years ago. She is wearing a short bleached-blonde wig, but the glasses, facial expressions, voice, etc. are the same. If I can find the video, I will post it.

    2. Interesting! The FBI and Friends have been conducting psyops on the locals since this began. They close their schools, disrupt traffic, follow them around and generally do everything they can to make them hate the protestors.

      Listening to the young girl’s recording of LaVoy’s murder and watching the aerial footage is telling. What they don’t tell anyone is that the reason he took off in the truck was that his passenger was trying to surrender and they fired at him.

      They were trying to kill everyone in the vehicle. It was a planned ambush, probably with infiltrators help. Regardless of what anyone thinks of the protest and the way it was managed, murder is still murder. This is the type of world we live in today.

      These guys were going down to the FBI encampment on a daily basis to talk. They could have arrested them any time they liked. Instead, they setup an ambush and killed a guy. They had hopes of killing more.

      This whole passel of “protestors” in the video are actors. Basically the whole town government is corrupt and the “sheriff” abdicated his authority to the feds. He’s a former BLM employee.

      All the MSM is showing are actors or selected townspeople with a view toward showing that the whole town is against them. They’re not.

      I can’t tell for certain if this is the same woman as in the other productions, but she certainly could be. All reported events are nothing more than fantasies. If they do one in Africa she’ll show up as a Bantu tribeswoman.

      1. Lophatt, this protest/stand-off reminds me of the 1993 Waco Branch Davidian massacre by the BATF. David Koresh was out and about all the time, according to townsfolk, and he was well known to law enforcement. If he was such a boogie man, why didn’t they just arrest him in town instead of raiding where all those people were living peacefully together, not bothering anyone? We know the answer to the why: because the BATF, FBI, DEA, etal. enjoy killing people. They don’t mind killing children either, as evidenced at Waco and OKC. The world would be a safer place if Charlie Manson and his Family were out on the streets, and these killers with badges were locked up.

  5. I was hoping for a Free Form Friday…

    Obamacare was Obama’s 1st term objective. Gun control is his 2nd term objective. Obama was re-elected in Nov of ’12, SHS happens in Dec of ’12.

    I am surprised that another shooting has not happened in the US since San Bernardino, which was Dec 2nd. It got me to thinking about why. SB got de-constructed pretty quickly online, and I still contend that it was a gun control op that got hijacked by the pro-war, terrorism group. Maybe this is why? Worried about their next op getting derailed?

    I’m going to assume that Obama has some serious incentives/disincentives for gun control. Which means he is going to have to go BIG. Bigger than SHS, bigger than the Port Arthur, AUS shooting (which btw lead to the banning of most semi-auto rifles in AUS).

    Imo the cavalcade of smaller gun-control false-flag psy-ops has failed. In fact it appears this over-use of false-flags (and not just for gun control but in general) has just provided more proof of the existence and use of false-flags. But this does speak of the desperation that is evident in much of the recent globalist actions. Simply put, trying to enact gun-control before the shit-hits-the-fan. They are not as far away as some think. If they can enact this no guns for those on the no-fly list, that is a huge step. For from there they can easily put every anti-government gun owner, every person who may potentially resist, on the no-fly list. The list that we have no idea how one gets on, and is almost impossible to get off. They are not going to get the Australia style ban, maybe the no-fly list ban is their concession?

    So Obama’s got really 9 months to pull this off as it has to happen before the election, and with enough time to enact the legislation. Summer? It has to be BIG. And, I hate to say it, but they are going to need real casualties this time. Obviously it will be a shooting, and it will include the standard AR rifle and semi-auto handguns. The younger the victims the greater the shock and impact, they’re not gonna hit a Retirement Home. I can think of a location with lot’s of young children that are completely insecure and unprepared… pre-schools. And they are everywhere. So how low will Obama go? Rest assured, we’re gonna find out.

    1. Ted, thanks for that – it put a smile on my face!

      There is so much talent, skill and creativity in this country in ordinary people that goes unsung.

  6. I’m bringing this conversation over here from page three…

    Patrick says:
    “Yes. I’m saying that God can speak through people because a message He wants delivered that the artist is unaware of needs to be delivered.

    “Of course, we can’t rationally examine that. It would be, to my way of thinking, something separate from the normal creative process, which is in itself mysterious. I’m just acknowledging that God can and does do that sometimes. It’s just an additional element that must be allowed for….

    “…Which brings us back to predictive programming. Who embedded references to future events in cartoon shows adults watch? Who knew to popularize David Rockefeller’s 9/11 plans decades before the event?

    “I have no idea. Well, yes, I do. It is supernatural, possibly?”

    If I understand you correctly, Patrick, you’re saying that God and Satan surreptitiously insert messages into media (and probably do a lot of other stuff, too, but this is what we’re talking about now.)

    Here is my problem with this. Supernatural intervention means the game is rigged. If God or Satan can step in at anytime and make whatever changes, then free will is void and human action is meaningless. It denies the creative power of the individual to effect change, and becomes an excuse to do nothing.

    It seems to me that there’s something in the human mind that corresponds to a divine order, to a standard of righteousness that makes it possible to discern good and evil, and to act on it. Through the exercise of free will, human actions express this moral difference and the consequences are reflected in the world.

    With attention, human agency can become an objective. A series of righteous moral choices creates its own momentum toward better things. Wells called it the “reconstructive creative urgency.” It urges that something be done to remake the world.

    Right action made with a magnanimity of spirit is the alternative to social decay. Through conscious acts of moral imagination, reason unites the free will of the individual with the will of God.

    1. I would argue differently. You say

      “Supernatural intervention means the game is rigged. If God or Satan can step in at anytime and make whatever changes, then free will is void and human action is meaningless. It denies the creative power of the individual to effect change, and becomes an excuse to do nothing.”

      I don’t think so. You believe the two things are mutually exclusive. I think there are layers that overlap. We can act out of our free will, which God foresees, and he can have someone else write about what will happen because of our choice. He can see the future, in other words, without directing it. Our choices are valid. We are not automatons, even if a being who stands outside of time can see it all before it happens. For God, the created world is like an aquarium in His study, the water being time and the fish being us. It all plays out in front of Him, outside the context we are trapped inside of.

      Daniel 12:8,9 says ” 8 As for me, I heard but could not understand; so I said, “My lord, what will be the outcome of these events?” 9 He said, “Go your way, Daniel, for these words are concealed and sealed up until the end time. 10 “Many will be purged, purified and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; and none of the wicked will understand, but those who have insight will understand. ”

      Daniel had no idea what the things he was writing actually meant.

      In verse 4 of the same chapter it says “But as for you, Daniel, conceal these words and seal up the book until the end of time; many will go back and forth, and knowledge will increase.”

      That is, no one else was going to understand it, for thousands of years, until the time would be ripe, and it would become obvious.

      Daniel 12 is overt hiddenness, but I contend that the creative process produces plenty of covert hiddenness. We hear about “automatic writing,” which is probably a real way that gods (the word in Hebrew is “elohim”) deliver messages through human beings, but that is people in a trance state. When we are creative, and conscious, God, and lesser gods, can–and do– use us to deliver messages we know nothing about.

      One of my favorite books is Ken Kesey’s Sometimes a Great Notion. I have read it many times, and it informs me as I journey through life. I think it deserves a place along side the great works of Western Civilization, in my opinion. Did Kesey understand what he was producing? Did Shakespeare? Milton?

      Kesey explained, later in life, how he constructed the book, keeping all the elements in mind, with intense concentration–but he said only a young man could be up to the task. He couldn’t do it again. He understood, in other words, the magic he was a part of, the privilege. It was all his free will, his effort, and if he didn’t push through, trying to get it right, it would not have happened. But messages were delivered there that he was a useful channel for. It’s part of greatness. What greatness really means. We are collaborators in shaping the creation with God. When we are lucky.

      1. However, in most cases, this is not the awakening of kundaiini, but a release of pranic force called pranotthana. This preliminary awakening starts from mooladhara and ascends the spinal cord via pingala nadi, only partially purifying the chakras until it reaches the brain where it is usually dispersed. This experience is traumatic. In this type of awakening the experience of shakti is rarely sustained. However, it does prepare the aspirant for the eventual awakening of kundalini, which is something altogether different and more powerful. After the awakening of kundalini, the individual will never be the same again. Here there is an ascent of force accompanied by a psychic awakening which is permanently accessible. Even though it may fall back again, the potential will always be there.

        “As one opens the door with a key, so the yogi should open the gate to liberation with the kundalini. The great goddess sleeps, closing with her mouth,, the opening through which one can ascend to the brahrnarandhra… to that place where there is neither pain nor suffering. The kundalini sleeps above the kanda… she gives liberation to the yogi and bondage to the fool. He who knows kundalini, knows yoga. The kundalini, it is said, is coiled like a serpent- He who can induce her to move is liberated.” Hatha Yoga Pradipika v. 105-111

    2. Positive and negative energy are the two most powerful forces in the universe, they cause lightning in the sky, divide the cells in humans, form a child in the womb, make the grass grow and the rain fall, keep the planets in harmony revolving around the sun. Every atom in the universe is capable of connection to every other atom. The universe is a living conscious spirit capable of knowing itself. It is the Christos.

      The male is positive energy and the female is negative energy. That is the base of tantra. It is how almost all major religious groups raise the kundalini. The female transfers her male energy to the male and the male transfers female energy or negative energy to the female. This doesn’t happen reading books and discussing theories. When you see an attractive female that makes the hair on your arms stand up straight, it is the negative energy, the power of the universe!

      The book of the Gnostic Thomas disappeared for good reason. When he said thine eye must be single, it was an allusion to the pineal gland or third eye. When he said the two must become one to see heaven he meant tantra. This book did not make the cut for the bible. So yes the body is the temple of the spirit. The book of Thomas is very different from the traitor Paul who had never even met Jesus. In Syria, the sacred literature relating to Thomas is closely related to the wisdom gospel of Thomas; Thomas is understood to be the twin of Jesus and the guarantor of his wisdom and knowledge. The old King James Bible I used to have contained a definition of Thomas Didymus defining it as the twin.

      So yes there were secret teachings for the disciples not available to the general public at the time. These teachings managed to get Mary Magdelene stoned. They called her a harlot due to her interest in tantra.

      When Jesus suggests that one be wise like the serpent, what does this mean. Well serpents coil together and lie motionless! (tantra) How is one born again? You must re-enter the birth canal from whence you came! (tantra) Now many people will absolutely burn down mentally when broached with this but it is a symptom of just how much disinformation they have been fed during their entire lifetime.

        1. No it is not just my opinion, it is scientific analysis dating back 11,000 years detailed by the ancient Rishis and put into written language about 7000 years ago. We live in an electric universe where indeed everything is interconnected. It is connected by the Chrtistos, a form of energy that pervades the universe and holds the cells together. Jesus seems to agree.

          I am afraid Jesus would turn away and laugh at Billy Graham and Oral Roberts.

          Calculus was stolen from India and patented by British psychopaths before they took their gold. In fact Plato and Pythagoras studied in India.

        2. I have told you before, Mick, either the Bible is true or it’s not. I can prove that it’s true, and that the gnostic writings are false. It is indeed your mere opinion that those false teachings are true. All that material is based upon nothing that can be proved. The Bible can be proved to be true beyond any standard science requires. The only reason people cling to those obviously worthless writings is because they want to believe the Bible is not true.

          As for your repeated, asinine, contentions about how Western Civilization stole everything from Hinduism, well, that’s not even worthy of comment. You are an ignoramus; when you venture in that direction, you embarrass yourself.

        3. Right. Gnosticism is true. Your ridiculous nonsense is to be believed. Thousands of years of philosophy and theology and archeology is false. Western Civilization is entirely fraudulent. We need to convert to Hinduism, our true civilizational home.

          And I’m the stupid one.

          Got it.

        4. You guys are really pissing me off.

          Your both right!

          Pat, the Bible is Real.

          Dub, there are mysteries beyond the Bible that are true.

          I have studied my whole life.

          It’s not the simple and for me to go into it it would take a 200 page PDF.

          Bottom Line is God is Real and Christ and neither of you deny that.

          Thats our common ground. We ALL want the End.

          As Steven says, John Luv and I think Joseph…

          Peace and Love

        5. You are cool, Ric, in my book, but here you are wrong. Mick, by embracing those heretical books (the worthless trash of the gnostics), and insisting that Constantine “wrote” the Bible, and constantly asserting that everything Western Civilization claims to be its own is actually stolen from the Hindus, is utterly and completely declaring himself our enemy.

          He’s not a good guy. He’s openly declaring himself to be opposed to the civilization our minds were created within. Like Kevin Barrett, who it constantly saddens me to notice James Tracy can’t see through. Oh, well. Civilizational enemies who sound like nice guys, I guess, in our time, just have to be given a pass–even if their ideas are toxic and certain to destroy us.

        6. Constantine did write the bible along with his cohorts from the roman empire. Anyone who has done a minimum of research outside sunday school is well aware of this.

          Few are aware that Constantine had journeyed to India and studied Vedic text under Brahmins. Then he went to work. The Papacy was “a Vedic priesthood” until Constantine the Great killed the Vedic pope to replace him with the head of the hitherto unimportant Christian sect. This instantly ensured the Europe-wide triumph of Christianity because of the “sacred sway of the holy hoary Vedic priest known as the Shankaracharya” There has been debate over the veracity of his faith because he was baptized only on his death bed. See article on the Constantinian shift. He was British born.

          The chief priest (the Pontifex Maximus) was from the time of Constantine forced to call himself a Christian priest. Maximus is the Sanskrit term Mahattamas, i.e. “the topmost”. The emperer Constantine convened the council of Nicaea around 369. He called all the “holy men” of the day who were “under divine guidance” to meet in Turkey as it was convenient for all. Eusebius was the only deacon invited due to his recent war record where brought the sword of the Lord against Arianism. The doctrine of reincarnation was done away with and it was even debated whether or not Alexander would be divine also and equal to Jesus. Books on Arianism would be burned and anybody caught with one would be executed. That is when the killing went into high gear in Europe the Irish and Germanic nature religions would convert or die to the new Christianity of Rome.

          It was a step away from true spirituality, whose tenets presented a clear danger to the establishment then, and as it still does today. In the late 16th century, immediately prior to the KJV becoming the de facto standard bible, Sir John Dee, left, was an Enochian black magician. Dee and Francis Bacon, the author of ‘The New Atlantis’ were both instrumental in the production of the KJV. As the Bible itself exhorts us to stay away from occult and witchcraft practices, it is paradoxical that Christians should embrace a work mastered as it was by high-ranking members of the occult. As well as being Queen Elizabeth’s ‘spymaster’, Sir John Dee was a prominent member of The Worshipful Company of Mercers, which are Masonic Lodges by another name, led by a Worshipful Master.”

          If this is not true please explain who did write the bible and provide us some links please, it should not be asking too much as you most likely know the answer. At least you should you go on 24-7 with the Abrahamic religions front and center.

        7. Dub,
          I like you but this statement is in Err:

          “Constantine did write the bible”


          I thought you could see beyond the BullS*it Muck we call Religion.

        8. The most fantastic nonsense I have ever read, Mick. Bing! You win! Nothing more historically ignorant could have been composed, were the prize in the six figures! And you are just making this shit up for free! Just for out amusement! Bing!

          I think you need go to bed now, pal. The mental muscle has been stretched perhaps its limit. Recovery time is important, even when using one’s imagination. In the morning, you can fantasize some more.

        9. Let met me add this.

          Yes, Constantine played a Big part uniting the Pagan and Christian worlds. I disagree with his MO.

          There are Great works all should read if your strong(No Milk Christians)

          The Books left out of the Bible are great study for those who are into the “meat”. That’s why I applaud People who “Think out of the Box”.

          But if you think the Hand of God did not create the Bible your mistaken and you should take 2 steps back because I know your on the same journey.

          I just don’t know what to say…

        10. Ric
          Taken from the Greek, religion is defined as the search for truth. Ironically that is how Hindu is defined, the search for truth. Who could possibly be against that? In fact that is what I am engaged in right now as we speak. Even the atheist can be considered a Hindu for he has embarked upon his own search for truth.

          Whatever you belief system as the Native Americans say, walk the good walk. I am a firm believer in Jesus myself, I am simply suspicious of those who claim to be working in his behalf.

          If you speak with a thousand different Christians you will be painted a thousand different portraits of how to “escape the fire”.

          I am more at ease with the saying written over the entrance to the Potala in Tibet, “A thousand monks, a thousand different religions.”

          As for Thomas and gnosticism, he was a gnostic and his manuscript was fairly recently discovered in Greece. It corresponds for the most part with what I have mentioned here. And Thomas was a part of the family of Jesus, his brother, unlike Paul who had never met Jesus and is responsible for much of what is viewed as Christianity. In short Paul was working with the Romans to devise the current control system.

        11. Dub.

          Hindu is the only Religion I DON’T have a problem with.

          I can’t elaborate without a 7K PDF.

          They are Before God set his Word and from the world before if you get that. It’s all Good Really but don’t discount God’s intervention that supersedes….

          This is Not an argument who’s wrong or Right

      1. Matthew 10: 16 – 23
        16 “Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves.
        17 Beware of men; for they will deliver you up to councils, and flog you in their synagogues,
        18 and you will be dragged before governors and kings for my sake, to bear testimony before them and the Gentiles.
        19 When they deliver you up, do not be anxious how you are to speak or what you are to say; for what you are to say will be given to you in that hour;
        20 for it is not you who speak, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.
        21 Brother will deliver up brother to death, and the father his child, and children will rise against parents and have them put to death;
        22 and you will be hated by all for my name’s sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved.
        23 When they persecute you in one town, flee to the next; for truly, I say to you, you will not have gone through all the towns of Israel, before the Son of man comes. Matthew 10: 16 – 23

        dublinsmick’s private interpretation goes thus…

        “When Jesus suggests that one be wise like the serpent, what does this mean. Well serpents coil together and lie motionless! (tantra) How is one born again? You must re-enter the birth canal from whence you came! (tantra) ”

        Thanks for saving me future useless reading, dublinsmick.

        Wise like a serpent means being objective and detached and thinking instead of emotionally reacting. We ponder things in our heart. The Holy Spirit shows us what action to take.

        Christians understand what “serpent” means and so do Kabbalists and Freemasons.

        The cold blooded coiling of a serpent means lying in all its forms, manipulation and control – to lie, kill and destroy. The end justifies the means. Do what thou wilt. That is the whole of the law.

    3. Toni, what a great response. As much as I want to try and be tolerant of the brilliant people like Patrick Chats out there who genuinely believe that a certain book, on one planet, at one small part of history is the “word of God,” it is becoming harder and harder.
      I have been following Patrick Chats Amiably for almost 2 years now. He is brilliant, documents his assertions, and is, in fact, amiable.
      But his entire world view, (make that galactic view) is colored by his belief that the “Bible” is somehow elevated above other man made tomes by some special endowment.
      We are about to be born, macrocosmically, like a child in to a greater family. There are lots of Bible people who think our extra terrestrial relatives and midwives are demons! Of Satan!
      The worst part is my fear that deep down they cosmically WANT an apocalypse! Like, if their finger were ON the button they would push it to usher in a “rapture” that is never even mentioned in the Bible!
      Sigh. Thanks for your comments. Let’s get on the ball and figure out how to really support Dr. Tracy.

      1. Your thoughts are perfectly understandable, Sarah (and your complementary remarks about me are appreciated).

        I contend that Western Civilization came to an end with the 9/11 event, and that the 20th century was a transition phase. Antonio Gramsci, the Frankfurt School, and the cultural revolution of the drug and music culture of the 60s, among other things, steadily, systematically, replaced the Mind of the West with the one you describe. To think with the Western Mind is a revolutionary act; it is swimming up stream. It’s hard even to learn.

        Francis Schaeffer came to Chicago in the late 60s to teach a class, and many of the most prominent pastors showed up. He told them on the first day that we were in a post-Christian society now. They scoffed (many did not come back, so outlandish did this sound), pointing out that in America there’s a church on every corner. He said that Christianity is driving on fumes, no gas left in the tank, and it will be powerless to stop the near-term legalization of abortion, euthanasia, and the killing of old people because they are inconvenient. They thought he was nuts. Americans would never allow their country to become so evil.

        What will this new civilization look like? What will be the background assumptions that declare the nature of reality? The kind of things you mention, probably, along with the wild stuff Dublin’s Mick believes about Hinduism being the root of all civilization. We’re in the early innings still, just getting a feeling for the thing. One thing the Bible tells us about it, though, is that Christianity will be outlawed, and Christians will be beheaded in large numbers.

        Now, to address some of your specifics. The Word of God does not address “one small part of history”; it is about its entire sweep. From the creation of Adam to today; from Adam’s fall, God instituted a plan to redeem the human race. That’s what the Bible spells out. Men were used by God to write the Bible, but it’s not a man-made book. It is infinitely layered with codes and themes that prove its source is supernatural. There is no other such book in the world. It can be studied like other books, but doing so always takes you into cosmic places, revealing God, the author.

        There are no other planets, no such thing as evolution, and thus no advanced societies on other planets that evolved. There is indeed a spirit realm, richly populated with various orders of sentient beings, but they are not allowed to enter our world unless on a specific, temporary mission (we are not allowed to attempt to cross over into the spirit realm, either). Those who visit here, whether physically or spiritually, claiming to want to “help” us, are evil, no matter how they cloak themselves as angels of light, or beings from another planet. The Bible assures us that in the last days there will be a great deception, that everyone falls for. I suspect that these rebellious beings, claiming to be space aliens, will be a part of it. You yourself already think that way, after all, and they haven’t even arrived yet!

        And, oh, the Bible teaches that we should look forward to the rapture (it is hinted at, and sometimes specifically spelled out, in many places in the text), but if you know anyone who thinks they can engineer it, you are dealing with a nut. Jesus said no one knows the day of hour, not even Him, but only the Father. You should understand this, even if you reject the truth of the Bible, because it can’t be read that way. Human beings have no such power, and they can’t make the Bible say they do have such power.

        And only a lunatic wants the apocalypse to come. Christians want that day infinitely pushed back, because we want more people to be saved. When the rapture comes, and Christians are no longer here to influence human society, the depraved nature of fallen man will be fully realized; Antichrist will control every aspect of life. It will be terrible in a way no one can possibly imagine (the Bible evokes it in symbolic language, giving us some idea, though). The apocalypse is a rescue mission; Jesus said that if He did not arrive at just the last minute, “all life would be destroyed.” Only a truly evil person wants the world to get to that point.

        1. Well said Patrick. As a believer in the Bible and a follower of Yeshua, my hope is that bloggers or readers of MHB, wakes up from the darkness of deception that the great fallen angel Satan has cast on this world. Excellent comment.

    1. Yes, that site by Aangirfan – Aanirfan has a lot of great info … Disturbing re the Oregon group, that some people there including the jailed Hammonds, seem to be involved in some awful child abuse & exploitation on their ranches, partly abusing their own children & also gov-funded ‘foster kids’ used as cheap ranch labour… kids being described as ‘like cattle or dogs’

      Situation in Oregon & with the Bundys in Nevada also tied to funding from the right-wing Koch brothers, funding rancher ‘useful idiots’ with the long-term goal of privatising fed lands for the billionaires

      But it also seems that some of the blowhard Oregon ‘militia’ were hired ‘Crisis Actors’ – asked on tape to sign ‘Talent Release’ forms !

      And the LaVoy Finicum ‘shooting’ video from US gov FBI seems to be shown to be a fake …
      Either (a) a staged ‘re-enactment’, or (b) maybe no one was killed at all

      Ron Johnson of STF ‘Stranger Than Fiction’ News argues persuasively the LaVoy Finicum shooting video is fake … time-stamp mis-match & also mis-matched with the editing … weapon muzzle flashes missing from negative … His conclusion is we either see a re-staging of original shooting, or there was no shooting of Finicum at all … ‘Did FBI Fake LaVoy Finicum Shooting Video?’ on YouTube

      On Henry Makow’s site, someone has posted a video & audio excerpt from the ‘LiveStreaming’ from the Oregon militia encampment which the viewer recorded … At one point someone comes in & asks the ‘Oregon militia’ guys … to sign ‘Talent Release Forms’ (!)… the ‘militia’ rush to turn off the microphone & camera … It seems they are ‘Crisis Actors’, & that the whole Oregon thing is a fake

      1. Re : the tape of the “talent signing”
        I haven’t seen these 2 identified as part of the Oregon Militia crowd,
        they are obviously part of the PsyOps in around this event but no one so far has identified these 2 characters
        Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water yet

      2. You seem to be mixing facts with propaganda here although you are bringing up some very important issues that are being analyzed and discusses/debated, the last reference to militiamen-I have seen no proof suggesting these characters were part of the Oregon Militia standoff, they are the same people you see being bantered about depicting the Militia as a bunch of gun-toting dangerous rednecks see @ 4:30
        which put together spells crisis actors, with apparently HBO being part of this coverup

  7. The people of Flint, and their children, were poisoned intentionally to privatize the Flint and Detroit water systems. The relevant e-mails and other evidence for this assertion is increasing daily. The media story that the transfer to Flint river water to save money is utterly false. It cost 20% more than the proposal by Detroit Water and Sewage. But the money for Flint water would go to the banks and corporations, even though it was undrinkable and dangerous to wash in.

    The e-mail from the Detroit water authority was published yesterday, or a few days ago, which verifies the costs. It was well known that the Flint river was a cesspool, and anti-corrosion chemicals were not provided even though required by law, and would only cost $100 a month.

    Flint was poisoned deliberately, and the water around the county is also being tested by fake tests, with the convivance of the EPA. There still are not any new pipes installed in Flint, and the whole matter is essentially being treated as a public relations problem. Maddow from NBC went out to Flint to paper over the situation, and pretend that Obama and the feds were on the people’s side.

    They are not. Obama has a long time consistent policy for privatizing the schools and water systems, the later being the major money assets of local governments. But there is a quite real public relations problem, both in the USA and abroad, because this situation is echoed all over the country.

    1. Why would anyone in their right mind deliberately poison a hundred thousand people and 9 thousand children. It’s quite simple; governor Snyder and his colleagues are not in their right mind. They are power mad. This notion was suggested to me by the perceptive commenter Ramona. She compared Snyder to the New Jersey governor Christie who also suggested privatizing water.

      Christie, a Repub, punished a town that was Dem by causing a monstrous traffic jam for some perceived offense of its mayor. It is conceivable that Snyder, a Repub, was punishing the Dem Flint town in the same way. He probably did not intend the horrendous results that occurred, and thought that this would be a temporary condition, but even in the current reaction of US opinion, this is crazy. At least a dozen people died of disease, and the brain damage of children from lead is irreversible.

      What is even crazier is that no one in power, from either party, called him on it. For nearly two years the public water was discolored, smelled bad, and tasted awful., and the people of Flint complained bitterly. But it did no good, because the American power system was not only a gangster power system, unaccountable to the law, but a pathological gangster state. The vindictiveness was a power tactic, unrelated to the money aspect, which is why the law that required corrosion chemicals that cost only 100 dollars a month was not administered. Snyder wanted to punish Flint.

      I know this is very hard to believe, but going over the entire episode in a holistic way, it is the only explanation that makes sense. This should be considered in the context of military leaders making war that they know they cannot win, as Japan did in ww 2 in attacking the US, or Lyndon Johnson did in invading Vietnam. Political leaders will commit mass murder for power reasons; American political leaders are now doing so against Americans.

      1. When you’ve fallen on the highway
        And you’re lying in the rain,
        And they ask you how you’re doing
        Of course you’ll say you can’t complain
        If you’re squeezed for information,
        That’s when you’ve got to play it dumb
        You just say you’re out there waiting
        For the miracle, for the miracle to come

    1. Have some more respect for the good guys and stay away from promoting the works of zionist scum like Leonard Cohen. Good music is no excuse. Do you not know that the entire music industry, especially at that level, is comprised of those who sold their soul, intentionally help lead the public down a dark path and mock is along the way. I saw that zionist pig in concert two nights in a row several years ago before I was as awake and disgusted by such jerks as I am today. His backdrop and the image on his posters, basically the logo for the tour, was a freakin’ six-pointed occult star, only made with two hearts intersecting.’ Not only was it the dirty symbol fools call the Star of David, it also represented the Masonic sign of duality.
      Cohen is one of the many whom I refuse to listen to any more. If you want a better world and a less corrupted mind you must move beyond such things even if they bring you pleasure. CAT equipment can help a lot on construction sites, but they should be boycotted for their role in oppressing Papestinians. Many might think that is a silly analogy, but I think it’s really a similar, proper way of thinking when good is the goal and boycotting evil is a solution.

        1. Toni,
          Haha LMFAO!

          I’ve been waiting all day to Hear the answer to your question:

          “Who are the good guys?”

          Greg, read the Parables of the Fig Tree. All of Tribes are not evil…..

          And that’s just 1 out of the 12 Tribes if not 13..

          That’s a whole different study

        2. It’s a puzzling comment from Greg.

          I’m still pondering his admonishment that my mind is corrupted by the things that give me pleasure.

          Lot of accusations around here lately that minds are corrupted, susceptible, asleep, etc.

          Each person’s mind is stronger than all that.

          And it doesn’t take a PhD either. A few mental pushups will put you on top of it, and you can create your own truth in face of anything out there.

          Be not afraid.

        3. Toni,
          Have you ever found out who “the good guys are”?

          I’d love to here the answer……………..

  8. Remedial freshman U.S. History last night on Dr. Fetzer’s show with James Perloff doing a speedy review of all the U S instigated false flags since sinking of the Maine. Interesting interchange where Dr. Fetzer asked Mr. Perloff what he meant by communism and the reply was that it means fascism.

    I was a 60s college “co-ed” and if I was not a communist and was braindead, I thank God for that. I remember an exchange I had with a local guy my age who was very smart and home on break from Harvard where he was a raging SDS student. Here I was a little ole Catholic girl from a graduating class of 19 girls trying to keep my head screwed on straight at a large state university. He asked me something like ‘why do they tell us all this nonsense?” meaning why do our parents tell us the God, country, mom and apple pie stuff? I answered him something like “because they love you and don’t want you to get messed up.” He seemed impressed with that answer and I think it still holds true. It helps me forgive the errors of my upbringing.

    The Real Deal Ep # 158 A Short History of U.S. False Flag Attacks
    MBC Official Backup Channel
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    1. He is pointing out something very important that needs to be discussed by the Truth Movement,
      What part of the Oregon Standoff is genuine, by well intended patriots who are assembling peacably to bring the issue of corruption in the Federal Government and western land management out in the open,
      and what part is psyops?
      He shows clearly the 2 “militia types” who appear to be agent provacateurs, with ramblings that could only be characterized as fraudulent crisis acting.
      there is also the clip of the same people signing “Talent Release,” which is a smoking gun,
      I think one has to have a firm foundation in the previous Bundy Ranch event to understand these characters in this recent event in Oregon to understand my question,
      it is important to examine the autopsy of the people killed and the crime scene in Oregon to start to flesh this out,
      I don’t personally believe most of the characters in the Oregon Standoff are anything but patriots, but there is no doubt PsyOps were/are a major part of what we are seeing in the public eye at this event
      RIP Lavoy Finicum

  9. Finally some useful information from the propaganda rag Aftenposten in Norway. Credit goes to Per Anders Johansen for this information. If Per investigated his fellow countrymen contributing to the migration scam, that would be appreciated too. That said, this information goes a long way to “prove” that Russia can’t be trusted – something NATO wants us to know.

    Very short, translated excerpts from the article by Per Anders Johansen:

    According to the Russian TV channel 5 in St. Petersburg, several people were arrested in connection with a Syrian visa scam. Syrians arriving in Russia were given false work permits which allowed them to stay in Russia before departing as refugees to northern Norway.

    The mastermind is a former diplomat in the Russian foreign ministry. Until 2012 he was assigned to Syria. He belongs to the Generalov family who is behind five fictions companies responsible for the fake work visas. The companies are Atrium, Alkair, Avenue, Arctic and Focus.

    After arriving back in Russia from Syria the former diplomat established these companies with family members as directors and board members. In a rundown apartment serving as headquarters for the companies, police found equipment for making false work visas, receipts, cell phones and a large quantity of cash. The article states hundreds of thousands of US dollars and rubles.

    What will they do when the NWO goes cashless? Anyways, this can’t be an isolated incident. It is probably repeated all over Europe by similar masterminds. Where did the US dollars come from? Perhaps the diplomat helped himself to some of the generous “donations” from here to Syria.

    The article shows some interesting photos from the apartment in St. Petersburg, but I don’t know how to post them here. The culprits must be enjoying an extended stay in Siberia – the diplomat section.

        1. Toni,
          I just responded to something you said earlier and got Zapped.

          Oh well, it or may not show up but it was funny what you said………….

        1. Who cares what you think. I posted maybe two or three music videos here perhaps months ago, however I don’t try and put up every song I have ever heard in my life.

          I am surprised you would feel that way Toni. But since we are being honest I have never 100% thought of you as spam, just one focused on the mind numbing mundane and the trivial. Do seem however to fancy yourself as some sort of status quo enforcer. But whatever floats your boat.

        2. I, for one, care what you think, Toni, and could not give the slightest rip for what Mick thinks–I picture him as Peter in Family Guy, or Homer Simpson, a fat slob with a keyboard, and opinions, typing away on a ratty couch.

          You are very measured. Very thoughtful. And very historically knowledgeable. I think the first time we chatted, you had responded to my positive reaction to the musical interlude James posted, The Big Rock Candy Mountain. You advised me to watch a Clint Eastwood movie, and I put it to the top of my Netflix queue, and I’m glad I finally watched that movie (I’m not an Angelina Jolie fan, so that’s probably why I had never watched the movie). Your study of the hobo history was absolutely new to me.

          Anyway, even when we have disagreed, or had troubles between us, it must be stated that you have always been wise and serious, and if anyone does not care what you think, that says more about them than you.

        3. I’m not YouTube.

          And at least I don’t try and pass this music off as mine, as a plagiarist would do.

  10. Breaking out of the last column prison, where I last declared I PITY THE FOOL!, I shall give Dublin’s Mick an answer to his question, which was,

    If this is not true please explain who did write the bible and provide us some links please, it should not be asking too much as you most likely know the answer. At least you should you go on 24-7 with the Abrahamic religions front and center.”

    Moses, David, Isaiah… Oh. I’m guessing you mean the New Testament.

    Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, Peter, Jude, the guy who wrote Hebrews…am I forgetting anyone? We have the first century manuscripts of those writings. Constantine was not even born when the New Testament was written, you fool.

      1. This outa get both of you…

        People, what have you done?
        Locked him in his golden cage, golden cage
        Made him bend to your religion
        Him resurrected from the grave, from the grave

        I will end my act here….

      1. Patrick I am trying to keep the subject simply on the bible. Discussing the Enuma Elish or the Sumerians is far beyond your capability. Use of such terms as dumb etc etc does nothing to establish your credibility and makes you appear more as an incensed child.

        Sitchin needs no defense, his books are translated in dozens of languages and are selling like hot cakes all over the world, including China and India, those whose civilizations first brought the light to man’s mind. That was long before you and Billy Graham pronounced them as heathen destined to burn.

        An Inuit hunter asked the local missionary priest: “If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?” “No,” said the priest, “not if you did not know.” “Then why,” asked the Inuit earnestly, “did you tell me?” ~Annie Dillard, Pilgrim at Tinker Creek.

        1. This talk of yours is nonsense. Follow the reasoning. Step through it. It’s what scientists do. Are you capable of that? Read the material, understand it, and then you will begin to understand what Bible study is. Refuse to do it, and remain a fool.

        2. Scriptures: the sacred books of our holy religion, as distinguished from the false and profane writings on which all other faiths are based. ~Ambrose Bierce

          The question before the human race is, whether the God of nature shall govern the world by his own laws, or whether priests and kings shall rule it by fictitious miracles? ~John Adams, letter to Thomas Jefferson, 20 June 1815

          Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. ~Seneca the Younger

  11. The Oregon operation seems to have been a psy-op/trawling exercise. Pete Santilli is a long exposed government provocateur involved in both these BLM incidents.


    Oregon Standoff is STAGED! Militia Actor EXPOSED! WARNING! PAY ATTENTION! (Redsilverj)

    The Unauthorized Biography of Pete Santilli

  12. Musical Interlude January 31 2016

    Ritchie Valens – La Bamba

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